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marksidehill
09-14-2007, 03:50 PM
i'm new here. i have several old train sets from the 40's & 50's. i know the engines would run if i just cleaned them. what do you recommend for cleaning & lubing.

all info is greatly appreciated. i'm hoping to list them on ebay this coming holiday season.

thank you very much

mark

Bob V
09-17-2007, 05:55 AM
i'm new here. i have several old train sets from the 40's & 50's. i know the engines would run if i just cleaned them. what do you recommend for cleaning & lubing.

all info is greatly appreciated. i'm hoping to list them on ebay this coming holiday season.

thank you very much

mark

WD-40 works well to remove old grease that may have hardened on the drive train. You can use 20 weight oil or 3 in 1 oil to lubericate the moving engine parts such as gears, motor shafts and axles. Hope this helps...

binskyhere
11-25-2007, 02:28 PM
What is the best cleaning solution for cleaning cars? Can I use water with a little dish detergent or is this not recommened?

Thanks,
Eddie

Bob V
11-25-2007, 03:23 PM
What is the best cleaning solution for cleaning cars? Can I use water with a little dish detergent or is this not recommened?

Thanks,
Eddie

Hi Eddie...You are right on track. Use dish detergent with water and a soft old tooth brush. The tooth brush works great to get in all the little cracks. Then rinse it of with clean water. Then use WD-40 to coat all the metal parts so that they do not rust or oxidize. Spraying WD-40 on the plastic parts will not hurt them and will give them a like new shine. Happy Cleaning.....Bob

Stan kolak
12-08-2007, 07:20 PM
White lubricate grease is also good for the gears, especially plastic. Car manu. used this on car doors. Use a light oil, NON-DETERGENT, such as 3 & 1. Detergrent oils could soften some plastic parts.

Stan kolak
12-08-2007, 07:23 PM
al ll the methods here are good. If the cars have the orig. baked on enamal paint, all is OK. If someone hand painted latex over them, some may rub off.

Rideauwrangler
04-11-2008, 10:27 AM
So would the consensus be the most effective and safe way to clean Lionle Engines is dish detergent with water and a little WD40?
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e162/AdamDoe/Trains/LionelEngine1656.jpg

Boston&Maine
04-11-2008, 02:15 PM
So would the consensus be the most effective and safe way to clean Lionle Engines is dish detergent with water and a little WD40?

You would probably want to take the engine out of the frame first and then wash the frame in dish detergent and water... As far as the motor goes, all the gears will need grease and then all the axles, bearings, pickup rollers, etcetera need an oil lube, I guess you could use WD40 for this part...

Lownen
04-11-2008, 03:46 PM
I think what Boston&Maine is getting at is, you usually want to dismantle a locomotive to clean it. Dish detergent and water are fine for the shell, and for un-powered cars, but the mechanism is a totally different matter.

Rideauwrangler
04-17-2008, 01:11 PM
I think I'd be affraid to take these things apart; I simply want to make them a little more presentable for sale because as is everything looks in poor condition but it's just dust.

sptrains.com
04-17-2008, 01:50 PM
If you're afraid to take them apart, I'd suggest listing them dusty. There is always the chance that you'll do more damage to the item than it's worth. It's like how you hear on the Antiques roadshow, "if this item wasn't refinished it would be worth $10,000 but since it was, it's worth $1000.00.

You might not get absolutely top dollar by not cleaning them, but if while cleaning them you remove decals or cause extra wear, that will hurt you even more. The people in the market for these items, know what to look for and how to properly restore them.

Rideauwrangler
04-17-2008, 02:55 PM
If you're afraid to take them apart, I'd suggest listing them dusty. There is always the chance that you'll do more damage to the item than it's worth. It's like how you hear on the Antiques roadshow, "if this item wasn't refinished it would be worth $10,000 but since it was, it's worth $1000.00.

You might not get absolutely top dollar by not cleaning them, but if while cleaning them you remove decals or cause extra where, that will hurt you even more. The people in the market for these items, know what to look for and how to properly restore them.


Right on; thanks for the advice!

Lownen
04-17-2008, 03:24 PM
I think I'd be affraid to take these things apart; I simply want to make them a little more presentable for sale because as is everything looks in poor condition but it's just dust.

Sponge the shells carefully with warm water and dish liquid detergent. Then sponge them again with only clear water.

Boston&Maine
04-17-2008, 03:54 PM
Maybe you could go to Staples and get a can of compressed air and blow some of the loose dust off :dunno:

JCS
08-10-2008, 03:26 PM
I like the train you pictured as it is. It looks like it is old.

MacDaddy55
08-18-2008, 11:02 PM
Hey guys,
The fun part of purchasing stuff on Ebay is the chance to refurbish, remodel, kitbash, repair something that you want real bad( One mans trash is another mans treasure). I recently purchased a Mantua 2-8-2 Mikado with a cast shell that hadn't seen the sun for 20 years. The gentlemen said it really pulled/hauled the freight and ran like a dream....20yrs ago. I carefully dismantled the engine, cleaned the body & tender, checked the drive wheels for electrical contact, greased the axles,gears and especially the old worm drive motor with 3-1 lite weight oil. Boy does she haul now. That is the fun of this hobby and why we enjoy it so much. So, yeah sell in its original condition and happy Ebaying. Thanks I hope this helped!

Boston&Maine
08-28-2008, 06:44 AM
Yea, it can be really fun to go deal hunting on eBay... Cleaning up and old engine and giving it new life is a fun thing to do...