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DJTrains
10-28-2008, 06:08 PM
I tested my 1952 Hutson and a scout smoker today and both produced little smoke from a couple bottles of old vintage smoke pellets.

Do old pellets lose their power over time?

Is there a way to clean out the smokers on these old vintage Lionels?

T-Man
10-28-2008, 07:58 PM
The worst thing is moisture. More moisture, the more heat necessary to smoke. To clean I have read that scrapping is common. Keeping the breathing hole open is a must. For solvent cleaning you need to determine if the the pellet is an acid or a base. The litmus paper will tell you that. Use baking soda if acidic or coke if basic. It will neutalize the reaction and hopefully clean up. Most of the reading I have seen is the conversion to liquid. Insulating fiberglass is use in the unit to hold the liquid.It would be interesting to know what the stuff is made of.

I suspect a Hydroxide, if mixed with water if it feels slippery it is a base since it is dissolving the skin. If acidic it will burn.

DJTrains
10-29-2008, 05:00 AM
The worst thing is moisture. More moisture, the more heat necessary to smoke. To clean I have read that scrapping is common. Keeping the breathing hole open is a must. For solvent cleaning you need to determine if the the pellet is an acid or a base. The litmus paper will tell you that. Use baking soda if acidic or coke if basic. It will neutalize the reaction and hopefully clean up. Most of the reading I have seen is the conversion to liquid. Insulating fiberglass is use in the unit to hold the liquid.It would be interesting to know what the stuff is made of.

I suspect a Hydroxide, if mixed with water if it feels slippery it is a base since it is dissolving the skin. If acidic it will burn.

I'll try to clean both LOCOs but I still think it's the bad pellets.

I'll order some of those new made pellets.