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Old 01-12-2017, 09:08 PM   #11
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On the lead CV19 reads 14 which is my consist number.CV21 reads 0 and CV22 reads 1. On the traling unit CV19 reads 14,CV21 is 0 and CV22 is 2.Just like they are all supposed to be.
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:15 PM   #12
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That "should" work then, you would think. Let us know what the experts say if they solve it.
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:26 PM   #13
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That "should" work then, you would think. Let us know what the experts say if they solve it.
You are right that should work,but doesn't for some reason.I will definitely update when I get the solution.Thanks for the trying to help.
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:53 AM   #14
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Thread revival - was a solution found for this issue? I was experimenting with univeral and advanced consisting last night for a bit. Read a little online last night. Will try again today.
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Old 02-19-2017, 10:40 AM   #15
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Still no solution. Tony's never returned my call and I haven't really had much time to mess with it.Might try resetting both decoders and start over again today.
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Old 02-19-2017, 10:55 AM   #16
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I have 2 GP38-2s I'm going to play around with tonight facing opposite directions. Both have Digitrax decoders and I have the zephyr.

I spent some time speed matching them last night by tinkering with CVs 2, 5, and 6. They are matched as close as they will get.

From what I have been reading I will try the following ...

Loco 1
CV 19 to 38 (consist address)
CV 21 leave at 0 (decoders just have forward/reverse lights no other functions)
CV 22 to 3 (forward/reverse lights controlled by consist address)
CV 57 to 102 (back EMF to remain active when using advanced consisting)

Loco 2
CV 19 to 166 (consist address 38 + 128 because loco is facing the other way)
CV 21 leave at 0
CV 22 to 3
CV 57 to 102

We'll see what happens. I just want the forward/reverse lights to behave the way I want. It's not happening with universal consisting right now.
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:19 PM   #17
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So I got it to work.

I started off with the settings in the previous post but no go. I read some more and went with these settings ...

Loco 1
CV 19 to 38 (consist address)
CV 21 leave at 0 (decoders just have forward/reverse lights no other functions)
CV 22 to 1 (forward lights controlled by consist address)
CV 57 to 102 (back EMF to remain active when using advanced consisting)

Loco 2
CV 19 to 166 (consist address 38 + 128 because loco is facing the other way)
CV 21 leave at 0
CV 22 to 2 (reverse lights controlled by consist address)
CV 57 to 102

Lights weren't working the way they should have so I read some more and found the solution.

On the Digitrax Zephyr I changed OpSw 17 from CLOSED to THROWN and then it all went good. When it is CLOSED "automatic advanced decoder assisted consists are disabled".

I even went to one step further and speed matched a third loco that has sound and put that in between for a 3 loco consist. Everything works like a charm - from the top consist address the headlight on the lead loco works as it should - on going forward, the headlight on the last loco works as it should - on going backwards (as it is facing backwards), all other lights are off, and all the sounds and mute work as they should.

A good evening session.
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Old 02-20-2017, 10:49 PM   #18
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Glad to hear you got your consist lighting working correctly.Except for CV 19 and your back emf settings that is exactly what I started with that didn't work for me. I'll give you a run down of the motive power,the decoders used and the settings that finally got it to work.
Locomotives:
Athearn GP60M ex Santa Fe patched to BNSF 142
Athearn GP60B ex Santa Fe patched to BNSF 326
Both equipped with NCE D13SRJ decoders in the Athearn factory 9 pin plug.
MRC Prodigy Advance System with Wireless Add On Throttles.

Lead GP60M 142
CV 19 to 14 consist address
CV 21 to 0
CV 22 to 1
CV 33 to 1
CV 34 to 1

Trail GP60B 326
CV 19 to 14
CV 21 to 0
CV 22 to 1
CV 33 to 2
CV 34 to 2

After resetting both decoders and unsuccessfully programming again to the settings you used I did more reading on ncedcc.com. They showed using CV 33 and 34 for some of the lighting effects and after some trial and error I finally hit on a combination that worked. Shouldn't have been that difficult in my opinion but at least they work correctly now.With those two squared away it's now time to get to work on the two Atlas Dash 8 engines with factory dual mode decoders. Those are not as sophisticated as newer decoders are so it may never work but I'll put in some time and see.
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