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Old 05-28-2016, 07:10 PM   #1
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Hi all having just purchased my first lionel train i thought it would be a good idea to join this forum.
My purchase is a polar express o gauge lioncheif 6-30218 for my sons birthday, as i live in the UK i know power would be a problem US 110V @ 60HZ UK 240V @ 50HZ and did not want to go down the route of inverter and bench top power supply.
After researching my options i discovered on the lionel support page the manual for the lioncheif polar express.6-30218 which states the power pack ratings as input 120-240 VAC 50/60HZ so decided to purchase this version , unfortunatley on opening i found a power pack model HKYF36-189175T-US INPUT ac 100-120v 60hz 0.5A OUTPUT DC 18V 1750MA 31.5VA no mention of 240v or 50hz as described in the users manual.
Can anyone please help me with this confusion.

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Old 05-29-2016, 02:35 AM   #2
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This needs to be moved to the O gauge section, perhaps the mods could oblige.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:04 AM   #3
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Some of the fellows here should have a answer for you. They just haven't read your post yet.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:10 AM   #4
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You'll have to contact the seller, they obviously sold you the US version. Any AC or DC power supply from 12V to 18V at a couple of amps will do the trick for LionChief, perhaps you can find an HO supply to power it while you sort out the issue.
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I would suggest getting the proper set for your voltage supply!
I have read a while back about TMCC needing 60 hertz to perform 100% correctly. Not sure if that goes for Lionel "Lion Chief" as well. The Lion Chief is supposed to be a smaller or scaled down version of command control from Lionel.
The solution is a complex one because of the hertz frequency being off if that applies to the Lion Chief sets. You will need to go to a marine battery set-up where you charge the marine battery and then use a 120 volt 60 hertz(cycles) converter.

FYI; proper voltage in the USA is 120 volts with 60 hertz, 110 volts went out after WW2. Also I was in Germany during the 1980's and the voltage there was 220 volts AC with 50 hertz.

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I have heard of people having success using Marklin transformers to run Lionel trains in the UK, since Marklin also uses AC. If it's easier to find Marklin kit in the UK, that might be a good option to keep in mind.
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I have heard of people having success using Marklin transformers to run Lionel trains in the UK, since Marklin also uses AC. If it's easier to find Marklin kit in the UK, that might be a good option to keep in mind.
That's a good choice but make sure the Marklin transformer is AC output and strong enough to use with Lionel O gauge trains. Marklin's AC transformers were used with H.O. trains if I am correct, so the wattage might be low for O gauge trains.

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Lionchief runs on AC or DC, and 50 or 60 hz. The LionChief stuff also is pretty low current, anything that supplies two-three amps to the track at between 12-18 volts should be fine to run this.
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Lionchief runs on AC or DC, and 50 or 60 hz. The LionChief stuff also is pretty low current, anything that supplies two-three amps to the track at between 12-18 volts should be fine to run this.
Hi thanks for all the replys on this very helpful.
Have visited the lionel web site and lionel do a power wall pack 637111 rated at INPUT 120-240 VAC 50/60HZ
OUTPUT 18 VDC 2000MA do you think this would be ok in the uk if i just use a us to uk plug adaptor.
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If you're buying a new supply, I'd get the larger one, Lionel 6-81603.
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