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01-09-2009, 11:44 AM
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Yard Master & Research
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Lionel 022 Switch
The switch, notice to the right the slide did not go all the way to the right. When operating the bar on the left or right provides a connection. A simple way to test (off the track)the switch is to place the center rail contact from the transformer to the power post and use the u contact to each outer terminal on the switch. This grounds the coil to activate the switch one outer terminal one direction.
Last edited by T-Man; 02-25-2010 at 08:14 AM.
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01-10-2009, 01:41 PM
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Yard Master & Research
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The controller
To control the switch three wires are needed .One for each post. The controller swictch just grounds one outer post to the center post.
NEAT TRICK is to eliminate the center post connection.
Why run a wire all the way back to the switch??
Have all your controllers lined up and the center post wires connected together and attached to the U terminal. The controllers are probably next to your transformer anyway.
The switches will work better with the shorter ground.
I found the complete parts lists for the switch in the Lionel Supplementals 1-9 page 471 by adobe reader.
Last edited by T-Man; 02-28-2010 at 11:31 AM.
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02-24-2010, 08:53 PM
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Yard Master & Research
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Time to revive Bats
Actually not bats but the basses to the switches. It takes an 1/8 nutdriver to remove a couple of sheet metal screws to access the underside. That way I removed the rails for cleaning. This is extreme but the rust was bad. SO far I have on good motor out of three. One is broken at the lamp base the other is missing a switch connector.
The next picture is a cleaned piece, big difference.
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Here is a starter waiting for cleaning.
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The easiest way to test the motor coils is by using two leads. Connect one to the center red and one to a green to test. There are two, one for each direction. The rivet to the left between the green and red, is the feed from the track. The wire from the red, to the right is for the lamp.
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02-25-2010, 12:35 PM
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Yard Master & Research
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Rewired today. Struck while the iron was hot. The motor didn't test out, I have to check some connections. The coils work but I think the problem is in the slide connections.
I didn't finish the eunit today.
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Here is an idea, how you can improve with just a little paint.
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02-27-2010, 07:33 PM
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Yard Master & Research
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The green arrow shows two sets of tabs. The left is for auto derailing and remains insulated from the rest. The bar gets soldered to the left. I checked these for continuity before installling the cover. One wire is replaced.
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The copper piece is an insert conecting the two outer rails.
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02-28-2010, 11:25 AM
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Yard Master & Research
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Motor Test
I had one bad terminal and replaced it with a 4 -4- screw. I do not have any 4-36 screws.
I saved the plastic with super glue.
Next is the spring adjust If you have to touch the spring to make it work,instead of trying to make the spring work harder by bending. I went underneath and pushed the plate up for contact.
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Of course to test, power to the center and the second touches a terminal to operate.
Last edited by T-Man; 02-28-2010 at 11:29 AM.
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03-03-2010, 11:37 AM
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Yard Master & Research
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I am busy cleaning switches. Not much excitement. Out of 7 in a box. One was a manual right. Another had no motor. I can get 4 motors working. One had a broken terminal that was replaced. The lamp swivel was missing a tooth and was removed. This switch will work without it. One motor was missing a copper spring connector that needs a rivet to replace. Non fixable at this time. So I can get four working. I am cleaning all of them and will keep an eye out for motors and parts. SO far after cleaning 15 switches I have yet to find one with a bad coil.
My process for the rusty ones
Remove screws, motor and back plate. clean and dry lub fasteners.
Motor:
Inspect for missing pieces Be sure not to loose the tiny spring required for the lock bar!!!
sand and paint underside.
remove wires including bulb wire
clean the plate
dry lube the plate(prevent rusting)(remember graphite conducts electricity) DO not use on coils or on the insulating paper under the slide contacts.
mod podge the paper on the coils
Clean electrical connections on the slide
test coils
add wires
test motor
switch:
unsolder joints remove wire
remove rails
Wire brush rails
scrub frog and a contact bar on switch
soapy water wash switch
remove rust on bottom contacts
assemble rails
solder joints and add new wire
Add paper to insulate contacts from the bottom plate with date serviced.
add bottom plate after sanding and painting
assemble whole switch and test. Add pins.
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Last edited by T-Man; 03-03-2010 at 12:02 PM.
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03-03-2010, 03:48 PM
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Dispatcher
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Virginia, USA
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Scales Modeled: American Flyer S & O, N-Scale
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T-Man, tell us the truth, what do you do in your, "Spare Time?" 
I don't think I have the patience to do that kind of intricate work(much less the memory!)
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03-03-2010, 03:49 PM
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Dispatcher
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Virginia, USA
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Scales Modeled: American Flyer S & O, N-Scale
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By The way, "Nice Job!!!!"
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03-04-2010, 06:11 AM
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Yard Master & Research
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It's easy after 3 or 4. I refer to the manual occasionally. These are the worst I have seen. The ebays( first time) were listed as junk, and I didn't have to take one apart. Beats paying 30 for each one. I guess this is one area where to draw the line and ask is it worth it? To me ,it is, just to prove it can be done.
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