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Old 01-09-2013, 09:32 PM   #1
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I'm not sure if this is the right section for this topic. I have a Lionel ZW with instructions printed on blue paper. The document is ZW-134-5-57-TT. I know that Lionel did issue some manuals in blue. I have never seen a ZW from the 50's in blue. I have a feeling this is a reproduction. I can't tell. The paper type seems correct and the printing appears to be straight. Any help would be greatly appreciated as to whether this is original or not.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:07 AM   #2
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I'm going to move this over to the O section, Steve ... I think better opportunities for response there.

Blue doesn't ring a bell on my end, but I'm no expert here.

Interesting find.

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Old 01-10-2013, 08:20 AM   #3
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I have several manual sheets in blue however no ZWs but I compared them with yours. It may be legit, but these are my concerns:
1. Is says page 1 on the bottom, which none of mine have What is on the other side?
2. Under Page 1 there seems to be ink dotted line that none of mine have either

Do you have any other blue ones to directly compare it to?
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What's the desired outcome here, are you trying to come up with an original ZW instruction sheet?

The original I have is six pages, and page 1 does appear at the bottom of the page. However, It's one piece of paper folded twice. Page 1, 5, 6 appear on one side, and the inside fold has pages 2, 3, 4 in order. The paper is a yellowed white paper with blue printing. The form number on the back of this one is: Form No. ZW-134-1-53-TT. I'm pretty sure the 1-53 is the printing date.

There have been many printings of the ZW instructions, I also have a scanned copy of the ZW(R) instructions, they were printed in '61.
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Here's a scan of page 1 from my original ZW User's Manual.

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Thanks all for your quick and helpful responses. I have another ZW instruction manual dated 1-57 which is not blue. It is about 1/4 inch larger all around and the print is also larger. The content is exactly the same. To my eye it does not appear that the blue is a photocopy that was trimmed from a standard legal sized sheet of paper.
In answer to your question about my reasons for posting. I bought this before I obtained the 1-57 manual. It was sold to me as original. I will return it if I can gather enough information to be satisfied that I was not told the truth. I'd hate to make a claim like that and give up something that may be a rarity to boot.
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I have seen other Lionel original instruction sheets on blue paper, so I personally don't have enough information to say for sure it's not original. These are almost all about 1/2 a letter sized sheet as far as the size of a given page is concerned.
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