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Motorbones 02-06-2015 04:18 PM

I was revisiting this thread today as I recently purchased an MTH Southern Pacific 4-8-4 Gs-4 Steam Engine on eBay (got a swinging deal for 130.00 and it works great after mostly being stored) and have been looking for a couple of Southern Pacific passenger cars for it. At the moment I'm pulling some 0-27 Harley Davidson cars with it, but wanted some lit cars. The Southern Pacific motif is pretty much color coordinated with the Harley stuff making for a good looking train. Needless to say, finding SP *** cars in 0-27 has been a challenge. Most are either HO, G-Scale or the larger O-Scale. Now I have a better idea on what to focus on....

tjcruiser 05-08-2015 09:27 PM

Prewar O size variance
 
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I've just wrapped up the restoration of a little prewar Lionel Ives 1501 windup loco. With that, I'd thought I'd offer some size comparison pics of some prewar O tinplate locos.

Pictured left-to-right are:

Lionel 258 (custom paint)
Lionel 1681
Lionel Winner Lines 1015
Lionel Ives 1501

These are all O gauge, and they all have x-4-x wheel configurations.

TJ

https://www.modeltrainforum.com/attac...1&d=1431134782

https://www.modeltrainforum.com/attac...1&d=1431134782

SBRacing 06-21-2015 09:09 PM

I love O and O-27 simpley due the all the action accesory buildings/ industries. However I feel I would have a hard time making it all to scale like I did with my HO layout. Instead of making it realistic I may make it the Toy Train Layout.

Big Ed 06-23-2015 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SBRacing (Post 417057)
I love O and O-27 simpley due the all the action accesory buildings/ industries. However I feel I would have a hard time making it all to scale like I did with my HO layout. Instead of making it realistic I may make it the Toy Train Layout.

Like I alway say.........No matter what scale.......THEY ARE ALL TOYS.;)

The main thing you hear about 3 rail is the track is so unrealistic.
I guess some never saw a well built 3 rail layout, if you just can't get over the third rail then look at a well built O gauge 2 rail layout.

Or then step a size down to S, a little smaller and it has "realistic" two rail.:rolleyes:

Most HO or even N modelers will tell you that the number 1 reason they model HO (or N) is because of the size requirements needed for an O layout.

But in the end THEY ARE ALL TOYS.

I like them ALL no matter what size they are. :smokin:

TomW2034 07-15-2015 09:21 AM

The traffic over in another thread got me interested in looking at the Lionel freight cars at The Western Depot. Now I better understand why used cars sell for so much on eBay.

Every car I looked at specified a minimum curve of O-31. For example:

http://www.westerndepot.com/product_...ducts_id/39627

Why would that be for a box car? I can understand something like a Berkshire locomotive binding up, but other than possibly looking funny, why would the above car not work on my O-27 layout?

Thanks,
Tom

gunrunnerjohn 07-15-2015 10:03 AM

Sometimes the trucks don't have the clearance to swivel sufficiently for O27 curves, that would be the normal reason for that restriction.

TomW2034 07-15-2015 04:57 PM

Learning... But Confused
 
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Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn (Post 442154)
Sometimes the trucks don't have the clearance to swivel sufficiently for O27 curves, that would be the normal reason for that restriction.

Fair enough.

It would appear that lack of swivel was built in on purpose. Although I am still learning, my best information is that my Pullman cars were made by Lionel. The cars are longer than the new-stock-for-sale case I cited and run quite well on my O-27 track.

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Although I am not averse to rebuilding for O-31 curves, it would be great to know if Lionel's description for new stock is a requirement or a recommendation.

Thanks,
Tom

gunrunnerjohn 07-15-2015 05:16 PM

I suspect the only way to really know is to try them. Some of the recommendations are chiseled in granite, other cars it's just a "suggestion". I tried to run the Hogwart's locomotive on O31 curves, it's rated for O36. Even making a couple of mods, I still couldn't get it around the O31 curves! I just took the scale PFE Vision Line Reefers and pushed them around the few O27 curves I have in a box, they went around without a problem.

TomW2034 07-15-2015 05:39 PM

Expensive Foray
 
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Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn (Post 442946)
I suspect the only way to really know is to try them...

I agree.

I was hoping someone had already experimented.

Tom

gunrunnerjohn 07-15-2015 05:58 PM

Not me, maybe someone else here. :)


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