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Old 07-04-2019, 04:25 AM   #1
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My new 717 log car and 710 special rail section arrived

Having the 751 log loader with my 1948 Pacific Freight set, I needed the proper dump car and track section. My goal is to restore this catalogue set to original, lightly used condition. I'm very happy with these purchases.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:05 AM   #2
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Looks in great condition. I do not have any operating accessories. Broke and others have many.
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Old 07-04-2019, 09:00 AM   #3
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The 1947 Pacific freight came with the log loader and dump car. The 1957 Santa Fe Chief Freight came with the flatbed operating coal car. And the original owner of the 1947 set (1960's garage sale find) had apparently added some accessories including the 716 coal dump hopper style car and this crane car (below). The original owner of the 1947 set had "aged" most the cars, like some did back in the 1950's for realism. I think I am going to leave them that way
for posterity. (Katy and 716 below).

So, I got really lucky. and I am buying what I need to make it all functional again. I am turning into an accessory junkie though.
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Old 07-04-2019, 12:04 PM   #4
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Its hard to be certain with the angle from which the picture was taken but the 710 track section looks like a 1946 piece. The way to tell 1946 track is the rail webs are blackened. A 1947 710 would have metal colored webs.
I am understanding you have most of a 4619 set from 1947. There is no difference in content between the 1946 and 1947 sets. The only way to tell would be from the engine details, couplers and possibly a silver rather than white lettered caboose. The cars included were a 717, 627, 632, 630.
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Old 07-04-2019, 12:55 PM   #5
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Its hard to be certain with the angle from which the picture was taken but the 710 track section looks like a 1946 piece. The way to tell 1946 track is the rail webs are blackened. A 1947 710 would have metal colored webs.
I am understanding you have most of a 4619 set from 1947. There is no difference in content between the 1946 and 1947 sets. The only way to tell would be from the engine details, couplers and possibly a silver rather than white lettered caboose. The cars included were a 717, 627, 632, 630.
Thanks for the info. If the "webs" are the clips holding down the track to the bed, they are brass colored. The 630 caboose has silver lettering. Engine is smoke in boiler, but not sure what else might differentiate it. All of the LCs were converted to KCs before I got it.

I have no 627 or 632 cars. I am thinking the original buyer substituted the 716 coal dump car for the plain 632 hopper and the 635 crane car for the 627 girder car. Maybe had a relationship with the hobby store owner? Or just paid up to substitute, then added the KATY and GAEX boxcars. Just spitballing here though. Plus he had the Ringling Bros billboard whistle, a couple light (signal) towers and a RC turnout with the set.

If there is another set that better matches what I have, I have not discovered it.

A question: what would be a good price for a #752 Seaboard Coal Loader in very nice condition?
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Old 07-04-2019, 01:18 PM   #6
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The web portion of the rail is the thin vertical part of the rail. With silver lettering the 630 is likely a 1946. Is the 630 frame red plastic, black plastic, or diecast metal? Is it illuminated? Too bad the original couplers are not there.
The tender for the 312 looks like a 1947. The 1946 312 engine would have round head rivets rather than hex head and it would have 2 brass contact buttons under the chassis.
The 622 GAEX was only made in 1953. The 637 was made in 1949 through 1953.
The 635 crane could be a 1947 or 1948. The 1946 version used a plastic frame.
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Old 07-04-2019, 01:30 PM   #7
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The 630 chassis is black metal and lighted. The body is red plastic.

I don't see any brass buttons under the chassis of the 312.

The 710 webbing is black.

Clearly then, the boxcars were a later addition to the set.

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