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Old 10-17-2015, 03:35 PM   #1
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USA Lionel O Prewar 1664 question

First post on what looks like a great forum site! So, I recently made purchase of a lot on ebay, all HO stuff except for a Lionel 1664. I straitened out the bent axle on the rear bogie but It appears to be missing the third rail feed pickups. Is there a special place I can get these? there's nothing on eBay and google isn't much help. I know literally nothing about Lionel and any information is helpful. I'm also in college so money is, traditionally, kind of tight, so I cant afford custom stuff unless i can manufacturer it myself.

It didn't come with it's tender but I've found a few options on eBay for cheap, apparently most if not all tenders are interchangeable? which is good because I like the knuckle couplers better than the strange pre war stuff.

One other question I have is; is it supposed to be able to roll? like the drive wheels move when pushed? I've never experienced a locomotive do this, but my HO stuff is a lot smaller (and what i can tell, a completely different type of motor system) then this big O stuff.
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:26 PM   #2
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OK , the missing price is a pick up shoe, Jeff at the train tender sells them, shouldn't cost much. As long as there is the connection price under the bottom plate they should just clip in. Yes, some engine roll smoother then others. Lots of times if the wheels don't movies because of the old grease Hardeningl up. Do you have a transformer? Clean up the wheels with a scotch brute pad. Also if you want to get onto more in-depth cleaning , just ask. Oil with plain motor oil. Just a little. Clean wheels and track with alcohol, purer the better. And most tenders are interchangeable, but the prewar couplers don't mate with the post war stuff unless you have a converter. ( ive never seen one) you could also change the truck on the tender to pull whatever you like. Good luck. It looks in good shape for its age:-)
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:41 PM   #3
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This is what I've got under the plate, is this normal? do you know what the part looks like I'm supposed to have? or
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:48 PM   #4
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That looks about right, there is a wire attached too, right? Hard to tell. I don't know if the part numbers for the post and pre war stuff is different. But Jeff at the train tender will know, call him. Its a common part. It sort of looks like a flat c shape price of copper. About half the with of a popsicle stick.
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:54 PM   #5
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Thanks for the reference, I'll give him a call Monday morning.
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Old 10-17-2015, 06:03 PM   #6
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOUR-4-1661-...PgJ09MSbQcIqzA
From eBay, how they look. But I would buy from a quality dealer.
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Old 10-17-2015, 06:11 PM   #7
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Thanks! Incidentally, is there a way to test to see if it works, before actually buying into it? I'd like not to waste money if there was no reason to do so in the first place. Do I need to buy a Transformer? would http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIONEL-1033-...oAAOSwDNdVqbO- this work if I had to, or in the event that it works?

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Old 10-17-2015, 06:18 PM   #8
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Im not sure how to test it without a transformer. The 1033 will due nicely.
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Old 10-17-2015, 06:25 PM   #9
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awesome, thanks! you've been a great help
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Old 10-18-2015, 01:52 PM   #10
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Welcome to the forum! I saw you and your locomotive on reddit before.
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