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Old 11-19-2019, 08:48 AM   #1
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Aerotrain Passenger train

Running on the Seattle & Yakima RR. UP officials concerned that it won't get over the Cascades.

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Old 11-19-2019, 10:08 AM   #2
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UP officials are wise to be concerned, the Aerotrain was underpowered and had problems dragging it's typical 10-car consist on fairly level tracks. Gades were a challenge for the Aerotrain locomotive. Frequently they had to add a helper engine for bad spots.
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Awesome train, Bill. I always liked its locomotive design. But as John stated, it was underpowered and needed a helper on the Cajon Pass both ways, when the UP ran it for a year between Los Angeles and Las Vegas and back.

Passengers complained that the cars were cramped, noisy, and not very smooth-riding. After the year was up, UP's City of Las Vegas became a single unit E8A pulling regular UP passenger cars and didn't need a helper over the Cajon Pass.

So UP officials would be wise to confine its run from Seattle up and down the Pacific Northwest coast, maybe down to Eugene, Oregon and back where there's no significant grades, like Amtrak's Cascades routing. But it does make an eye-catching and unique O scale train to run on the layout. Wish I had one.

By the way John, I just happened to notice from your above post and avatar, that you've been on this forum 9 years and now have over 42,000 posts, which works out to over 12 posts a day, every day, for 9 years! How on earth do you find the time?
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Old 11-19-2019, 11:10 AM   #4
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Did I read the it was adapted from buses?
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:20 PM   #5
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Did I read the it was adapted from buses?
Yes, Mike. The Aerotrain's cars were derived from the GMC Coach Division's PD-4104 bus body. This was GM's most successful intercity bus operated by many companies including Greyhound and Trailways from the mid-1950s to the mid-1960s and beyond.

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Another one.
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I have a couple of the Aerotrain locomotives, and 11 or 12 cars. I'm converting one of the locomotives to TMCC, so I'll have a PS/3 and a TMCC. That allows me to run in places where the DCS is problematic. I'd also like to see if I can stuff smoke into the TMCC upgrade.
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:47 PM   #8
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That is cool. My Dad took me to see one of those trainsets when it was on display in Chicago in 1955, and then I used to see it in commuter service on the Rock Island in the mid-60s. Too bad it wasn't successful...it was an attractive diesel and consist. (Unknown photographer.)
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Jay-Jay,

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The real deal Rock Island Aerotrain can be seen at the St Louis Transportation Museum along with dozens of other locos and rolling stock.

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