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Old 08-18-2019, 05:39 AM   #1
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Modern Lionel & Tinplate

Now that Lionel has ended the agreement that allowed MTH from manufacturing Tinplate under Lionel's name & logo will Lionel venture into the Tinplate world.

Does Lionel still have any of their Tinplate tooling to resurrect the brand ?

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Old 08-18-2019, 04:42 PM   #2
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Good question!!!

I'd be quite curious to know!

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Old 08-18-2019, 09:58 PM   #3
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MTH owns all the tooling that was used for the Tinplate Traditions line.

https://mthtrains.com/news/618a
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Old 08-19-2019, 11:10 AM   #4
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Which company owns the design produced by the tooling? That is, if MTH produced tinplate under its own name using different product names would that violate Lionel's trademarks, copyrights, etc.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:59 AM   #5
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MTH owns all the tooling that was used for the Tinplate Traditions line.

https://mthtrains.com/news/618a
That is interesting. Reading the MTH statement it sounds like the current tooling was developed by MTH and is not the original Lionel tooling. If that is the case what happened to the Lionel original tooling ?

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Old 08-20-2019, 01:16 PM   #6
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My experience with tooling at GM. Once the tools are no longer in use, they are destroyed. For example, the cavities on molds are typically welded to destroy the details.

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Old 08-20-2019, 03:02 PM   #7
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Question: has Lionel ever produced modern tinplate?

I was under the impression that Mike Wolf was behind pretty much all of it, even the old Lionel Classics line. Can anyone confirm? If so, I suspect we'll see more tinplate out of MTH before Lionel.
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Old 08-21-2019, 05:05 AM   #8
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Question: has Lionel ever produced modern tinplate?

I was under the impression that Mike Wolf was behind pretty much all of it, even the old Lionel Classics line. Can anyone confirm? If so, I suspect we'll see more tinplate out of MTH before Lionel.
Yep, the first major business decision a very young Mike Wolf made was purchasing the tinplate tooling from Jerry Williams for $150,000. This tooling allowed Mike to manufacture about 25 to 30 tinplate items. Pretty much this was the beginning of MTH.

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So am I assuming correctly that no one is producing modern tinplate right now?
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That is correct.
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