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Old 02-19-2011, 12:25 PM   #11
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I'll snap some more pics of the grey "bent over" thing, then. I'm clueless as to what that might be. Anyone ???
No need for more pictures. That's the guts of the Lionel 3454 Merchandise car, I'm working on one on my bench as we speak. It's a pretty scarce car, so I suspect you might be able to sell the innards to someone trying to fix one.
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:58 PM   #12
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John,

THANK YOU! I had no idea what that gizmo was. In fact, I didn't even know there was such a thing as a "merchandise car". I just had a 'net look at a few ... pretty neat, with the automated package unloading.

I haven't received the ebay lot, but are you interested in the gizmo innards?

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Old 02-19-2011, 03:15 PM   #13
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Well, I can always use spare parts. Mine happens to work right now, but you never know. Maybe this one would be smoother, mine occasionally has trouble opening the door.
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Old 03-02-2011, 05:20 PM   #14
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My odd-lot addict ebay score arrived a day ago. Lionel 1681 prewar loco bits galore, plus other odds-n-ends.

The treasure of the lot is one of the red 1681 loco shells. All original, in excellent condition ... just a few tiny, tiny paint chips. As far as I can tell, it was never run ... there's no evidence of a front truck ever scraping the underside of the steam chest. I'm guessing it was an inventoried spare, never used. Nice find for me ... one less that I'll have to strip and repaint.

I'm excited that one of the motors has an intact manual reverse switch, rather than an e-unit. One of my restored 1681's has one of those, and I had fun rewiring it. Works nicely, too ... no hum, of course!

One odd find that has me perplexed ...

These 1681 locos originally had 8-spoked drive wheels ... one side with gears, the other without. One of the motors in the lot has had a wheel replaced ... but instead of having gear teeth on the back, it simply has two small studs that protrude from the back face. Each stud is approx 1/8" diameter x 1/8" tall ... about 11/16" apart from each other. Clearly, this would be non-functional in the motor as found (no gear!). But why would a wheel ever have been made with two studs on the back like that? Spacers of some sort? Anyone know ???

(I'll post pics of the wheel when I can.)

The 56 lamp post is in nice shape, except that it's missing it's top. Anyone know where I could find replacement / repro tops (glass, finial, etc.)? I haven't checked with Jeff Kane on this, yet.

There's a whistle inside the black tender! I haven't peeked inside yet. The tender trucks and pickup rollers are shot/gone ... but hey ... a whistle!

Cheers,

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Old 03-02-2011, 07:29 PM   #15
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The studs probably held a gear in place, when it was on the right engine.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:05 PM   #16
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Drive wheel with 2 studs on the back ...

T-Man, etc.

Up above, I posed a question about one of the odd drive wheels I found with my misc lot of old Lionel stuff ... a wheel with 2 cylindrical studs (but no gear) on its back face.

T-man suggest that the studs may have engaged a separate gear. Good thinking.

However, by dumb luck, I was poking around ebay, and came across a few different listing of Lionel 1506L's, which were tiny prewar windup locos ... smaller than the 1681's, but with the similar-looking 8-spoked wheels.

Well, when I started to look at some the of ebay pics of the 1506L, I noticed that one of the drive wheels is driven by the windup motor via some sort of open-faced disc ... perhaps this disc engage two studs on the back of the drive wheel?

I'm posting several pics of 1506L's for reference. These are NOT my locos, but rather misc pics from ebay.

For anyone interested, take a look at the "disc" on the front left wheel ... used to transfer power from the spring motor to the drive wheel ...

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Neat, that's a first.
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TJ,
It looks like you have the first wheel for a collection of windup engines. A new addiction and one that plays well with your present addiction for prewar locos.

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Old 03-03-2011, 09:20 AM   #19
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Guys,

I was finally able to snap some pics of the "wheel with studs on the back" that was part of my odd lot find. (One wheel ... front and back pics merged below.)

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Sure looks like those studs are to grab the backing plate that you showed for that windup.
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