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Old 11-05-2012, 01:13 PM   #41
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OK.I'll say maybe on the side rod question.Most of the ones I see pictured that do not have side rods also do not have counter weights.Now I don't mean this to be nasty but if you are concerned with authenticity why did you paint it red with brass ?All the photos I have seen are black except for the name on the tender and the number on the cab.I have no problem with painting a loco a different color but why make an issue out of the side rods? Just say you don't care.
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:37 PM   #42
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Who said I'm concerned about authenticity??? I've painted the loco bright red, for God's sake! I've followed Model RR Rule #1 -- Whatever Makes Me Happy!

The only reason I responded to "make and issue out of the side rods" was to answer and document the questions / inquiries raised here by you and others in this thread, and to clarify some info on the loco for other people attempting their own restoration work down the road. Isn't that what this forum is all about? (My use of CAPS was purely to emphasize some Lionel history for anyone else trying to do research in this thread at some future point.)

So, in response to your comment above: I DON'T CARE.

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Old 11-05-2012, 06:23 PM   #43
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Who said I'm concerned about authenticity??? I've painted the loco bright red, for God's sake! I've followed Model RR Rule #1 -- Whatever Makes Me Happy!

The only reason I responded to "make and issue out of the side rods" was to answer and document the questions / inquiries raised here by you and others in this thread, and to clarify some info on the loco for other people attempting their own restoration work down the road. Isn't that what this forum is all about? (My use of CAPS was purely to emphasize some Lionel history for anyone else trying to do research in this thread at some future point.)

So, in response to your comment above: I DON'T CARE.

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Bad day at the office tj?

I think the red paint looks......Beeeeeeutifull.
The gold too.


Edit, next time I think a Blue & Orange would look nice on that locomotive.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:39 PM   #44
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I don't really care either but the way you had stated some stuff I thought you wanted authenticity.If you are clarifying info for others don't you think that others should know that red [I never said I didn't like it] was not the original?

I have a grey Lionel 221 that I am considering painting blue and silver to match the cars that came with it.I also agree it's about fun.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:31 PM   #45
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I think we have general agreement, have fun with your trains!
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:38 PM   #46
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Rogruth -- I don't think you and I are reading this thread with the same level of clarity. You say:

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If you are clarifying info for others don't you think that others should know that red [I never said I didn't like it] was not the original?
In my very first post, I said:

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I picked up a junker prewar Lionel 258 loco about a year ago ... late 1930's, matte black throughout ... the poor-man's stepdown from Lionel's more trimmed-out 259.
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As for my refinish gameplan ... definitely not matte black. I'm thinking gloss red with shiny copper domes ...
... and then I showed a photo of the loco, as-found, in its original matte black color, followed later by my chosen red repaint.


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Thanks, John ... I think I'll get back to doing that!

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:46 PM   #47
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I think the red paint looks......Beeeeeeutifull.
The gold too.
Thanks, Ed!

My only "on second thought" reflection (now, after the loco has already been painted) is that maybe it would have looked better if I had painted the frame a somewhat darker/deeper red color than the boiler shell, cab, and steamchest? Just a little color contrast to highlight the frame, cowcatcher ... maybe the heat-exchanger thingy on the sides, too?

Hmmm ...

Next time, maybe!

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Old 11-05-2012, 10:29 PM   #48
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TJ,
I do apologize.I must have lost track somewhere between pages 1 and 5 of what was happening.I thought you restoring to the original.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:34 PM   #49
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If you do a deeper color like you described, I think the top of the cab in the deeper color to match would look good also.

But that is me.....IT IS YOUR TRAIN.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:39 AM   #50
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Thanks, Rogruth ... all good.

Maybe next time, Ed ... no changing this one, now that everything has been tabbed back together.

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