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Old 09-09-2019, 06:00 PM   #1
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Hello everyone! I am new on this forum and new to model railroad. I don't know if I completed everything ok on here. I am from Pa. and I got the ok from the better half to put in a G scale train in Her garden. Question I have is do you think I should dig out a footer 3 or 4 inches deep and fill it with #2B stones and tamp it down before I lay down tracks? Thanks, Jim
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Old 09-09-2019, 08:23 PM   #2
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There are many methods for outdoor track installation. Everyone has their favorite.
Do you plan to secure the track? PA winter weather can effect how you install the track.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:10 PM   #3
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Hello everyone! I am new on this forum and new to model railroad. I don't know if I completed everything ok on here. I am from Pa. and I got the ok from the better half to put in a G scale train in Her garden. Question I have is do you think I should dig out a footer 3 or 4 inches deep and fill it with #2B stones and tamp it down before I lay down tracks? Thanks, Jim
I don't know what #2B stones are but you probably only want stones that are not round, eg; pebble stones. There are forums like My Large Scale and Large Scale Central that can be more helpful. I did outdoors in Georgia so I can't answer for the climate changes in PA. Good luck.
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Old 09-09-2019, 11:36 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies. We do get some brutal winters here but I was thinking about just laying the track on top of 2 in. quarry stone the size they use for making concrete. Then using chicken grits stones for ballasting. How would I fasten the track down if I had to? Jim
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I wouldn't fasten the track, just let it sit on the ballast because of year round temperature changes.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:21 AM   #6
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Thanks Gramps! Do you think I still need to to dig a few inches down and run track on top ?
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Old 09-10-2019, 04:28 PM   #7
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My concern about digging the trench is if in winter rain or snow gets in there then freezes it might force the track up. I think it's called frost heave. It was not a problem down here so I'm not sure of the answer.
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If you review my post below yours, check the pictures.
It may be overkill, but we are in a town park so we built for weather and public attention.
I used 8 x 16 x 4 inch blocks buried in the ground. The track was tapconed (screwed) to the concrete blocks.
Then we put gravel underneath and ballast on top.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:58 PM   #9
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Don, sorry I'm late with the reply to your post. I laid red brick so they are flush with the ground planning on laying the track on top and then ballasting but I'm not really sure that will work. Do you know why i can't click on any pics or links? I am logged in but nothing seems to work. You had a site for me to go to but I clicked on it and it won't come up. Jim
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Old 09-14-2019, 07:49 AM   #10
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Don, sorry I'm late with the reply to your post. I laid red brick so they are flush with the ground planning on laying the track on top and then ballasting but I'm not really sure that will work. Do you know why i can't click on any pics or links? I am logged in but nothing seems to work. You had a site for me to go to but I clicked on it and it won't come up. Jim
Welcome to the site.
I am assuming that you are using a computer? Do you have an ad blocker? Have you tried a right click and open in a new window?
Sometimes I have to do that to get the link to show, but not here. Sometime in my e mails or a google search.
On a phone I can't help with problems.......I still have my old dependable flip phone.

It might be that you need a few more posts, you only have 4?
Maybe John (Mod/admin) would know if this is the case.

G scale? Never did an outside layout. Just curious as to how big is the layout going to be? What do you have to work with?
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