Thanks for the reply Don
The layout is powered by only one power supply, a digitrax Zephyr no booster yet but I think I need one. There is a DCC Specialties PSX-1 circuit breaker at the Zephyr.
The siding is powered from the same power source so it's on the same buss and the polarity is matched.
The short happens at the insulators or at least I though it was till now. I just ran the PA over the other siding that I had problems with but fixed and it shorted there also and not at the insulators but at the turnout. They are both curved #7 Walthers. I just put in the second one and never ran the PA PB over it, looks like something to do with the curved turnout.
I just ran things again and believe that you hit the nail on the head about the turnout frog insulators.
I think I'll try gaping the frog rails, no wife and I gave up finger nail polish several years ago.
Thanks ever so much Don as this was driving me nuts
I think the layout will be fun to operate, not the most beautiful or realistic but fun.
Thanks again Magic
Don did it.
I just gaped the frog and everything is as it should be. Looking at the turnouts there is a very small gap in the main line at the frog, this seems to be the problem I just gaped that one rail and we're good to go. Thanks Don I can go head and district the layout, gatta rewire everything anyway, it's such a mess with all the additions I put in.
I'm a happy camper right now.