Beginner Q & A If you're new to model trains, stop in here! |
12-10-2007, 08:24 PM
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Basics of Building a Layout
Basic tools:
Some carpenter tools, electric drill, battery operated also, drill bits, multimeter, soldering gun, soldering pencil, electronic hand tools, diagonal cutters, needle-nose pliers, wire strippers, tweezers, jewelers files, etc. Buy rosin core solder and a can of flux for rosin free solder. Yes, you will sometmes have to use the flux in tight places as there may be not enough rosin in the roll solder. Had experience as an equipment repair technician and used all tools related to wiring, among other fields.
Selecting layout size:
You do have to get around the table in order to work. No track should be more than 24" from the edge of a table. On a rectangle, 4' X 8', 4' X 10', etc., there should be two feet of floor space on the long sides. Given the room size, one end should be open to get to the other long side.
For "against the wall" layouts, a dogbone or horseshoe layout has to be used, each end would have the turn-a-rounds with the tracks turning into the center section and then parallel to the back track. This center section cut out of the rectangle should be about two feet wide. This would give you two track runs and room for several pairs of switches in the straight center.
You do need some switches to do some logical train runs, engine to train switching, etc. An oval or circle train run gets boring after a while.
Minimum radius for molded snap or E-Z track is 18". Minimum width of board is 38". I recommend flex track at 20" radius on a minimum width board at 42". Reason is, the larger engines with three axles can turn around smoothly. Parallel tracks on the curves need more room between them for the "corner swingout" of the cars and engine. An expert in our club found this out too late, only one train can do the curves at a time.
Construction Step 1:
Make the train table and paint the top dark brown or dark green. Layout all track on the table and run for several days to decide if this is the set up you want.
Construction Step 2:
Layout the streets and roads, allow for building lots on each side of the road. Paint the road black in the country and grey in the city. NOW build mountains and tunnels on layout allowing for all that was done already.
Construction Step 3:
Set all buildings in place, drill a hole through for lights if used. Tack glue two corners of the building in place. Spot glue trees and shrubs, usually around bare areas. Scenery can move with train vibrations, thus the glue tacking. Repaint areas around houses with the green paint, mixed with sand if desired. Repaint around industrial areas with brown, beige paint if desired. Allow for parking areas, grey for cement or sand color for worn areas on grass. Wait in time between steps so changes can be made, especially after the tunnels and mountains. This I learned from train club members who had a difficult time making changes after the major building was done.
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Good luck beginners!!!
Last edited by Boston&Maine; 01-19-2010 at 07:01 PM..
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01-04-2009, 12:07 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Thank you this helps alot glad there are people like you out there for people like us who need some light shown
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01-10-2009, 06:31 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Your right it is good to see that people are here to help guys like us.
Im also new to any forums and have a questions about setting up the contours of the base. Instead of having a flat base i wanted a base to follow a particular ground slope and contour levels. What type of base do you use for this. I have tried plaster but its just too heavy and cracks with every slight movement.
Look forward to your reply
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01-10-2009, 06:37 PM
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Station Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern NH
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Your right it is good to see that people are here to help guys like us.
Im also new to any forums and have a questions about setting up the contours of the base. Instead of having a flat base i wanted a base to follow a particular ground slope and contour levels. What type of base do you use for this. I have tried plaster but its just too heavy and cracks with every slight movement.
Look forward to your reply 
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Welcome! I would try using that styrofoam insulation which comes in sheets... You should be able to easily cut it and contour it to your liking...
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07-07-2010, 07:53 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central NJ
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Why are most layouts are mounted on a pink foam board? Is that necessary? I also noticed that the tracks are mounted on cork. Why? You would still nail the tracks to the board. Would you use both, pink foam and cork?
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07-07-2010, 08:39 AM
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Station Master
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Location: Southern NH
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Pink foam allows for sculpting of landscape contours, and it also makes it easy to stick trees and stuff to the layout... Track is mounted on cork to deaden the sound of the train as it goes around the layout...
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07-07-2010, 08:58 AM
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Yard Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Louisville KY
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Why are most layouts are mounted on a pink foam board? Is that necessary? I also noticed that the tracks are mounted on cork. Why? You would still nail the tracks to the board. Would you use both, pink foam and cork?
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Stuart,
The cork serves two purposes: one is to deaden noise, the other is for a neat appearance. The cork roadbed is sort of standard for layouts: people got used to seeing it and it became sort of a perceived necessity: it's not. If you are using the foam insulation panels under your track, try temporarily laying out your track and evaluate the noise level. If it doesn't sound overly-loud to you, forget the cork.
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10-23-2012, 05:58 PM
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Hobo
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Originally Posted by Reckers
Stuart,
The cork serves two purposes: one is to deaden noise, the other is for a neat appearance. The cork roadbed is sort of standard for layouts: people got used to seeing it and it became sort of a perceived necessity: it's not. If you are using the foam insulation panels under your track, try temporarily laying out your track and evaluate the noise level. If it doesn't sound overly-loud to you, forget the cork.
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I never thought of using cork or foam panels thanks for the ideas
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11-03-2013, 07:57 PM
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Hobo
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: New Brunswick
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pink foam
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Originally Posted by stuart
Why are most layouts are mounted on a pink foam board? Is that necessary? I also noticed that the tracks are mounted on cork. Why? You would still nail the tracks to the board. Would you use both, pink foam and cork?
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If no one else has told you, you could try to use ceiling tile. I'm not sure what the difference is in price but if you go into your local building shop and look for damaged ceiling tile, they will usually sell it to you for 1/2 price.
There is nothing written in stone in this hobby.. What ever you choose to use for sub-roadbed is up to you but I would use cork roadbed as it helps quiet the sound of the train rolling atop as well as it gives your ballast shape. Just my 2 cents worth!
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09-14-2016, 10:06 AM
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Engineer
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Lansing Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stuart
Why are most layouts are mounted on a pink foam board? Is that necessary? I also noticed that the tracks are mounted on cork. Why? You would still nail the tracks to the board. Would you use both, pink foam and cork?
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The "cork" simulates a "ballasted" look and the foam allows for ground contour, culverts, streams and suchlike.
My first effort was just track on bare MDF, it works but there is no contour, no grades and no "hills", even though the loops are "yooge" approx 30x10 feet each and there are four of them after a year it DID get a little "boring". LOL! Now I'm going to use some cork and maybe some foam in some areas, add some hills, the loops will be a little more diverse and hopefully a little less "boring". LOL!
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