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Old 10-21-2019, 11:28 AM   #1
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"The Yankee" One of the Oldest Steam Engine in U.S.

The Yankee is one of three surviving steam locomotives, that were used in the mining industry. The Michigan Iron Industry Museum, in Negaunee, Michigan, has received a grant of $120,000, to restore the Yankee. Here is a photo of the loco, in it's present state.
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The locomotive was manufactured by Alexander Chaplin & Co., of Glasgow, Scotland, between 1862-1868. It revolutionized the moving of iron ore, which had been previously been done by hand and animal power. Attached is an article from the Detroit News, which explains the history and added photos. I never knew about the Yankee, but found the article interesting reading.

https://www.uppermichiganssource.com...563146171.html
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Old 10-21-2019, 01:21 PM   #2
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It always does my heart good to see old machines restored. I wonder if they'll ever run The Yankee after it's fixed up? Would be wasteful to restore it to running condition and then not run it!
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It always does my heart good to see old machines restored. I wonder if they'll ever run The Yankee after it's fixed up? Would be wasteful to restore it to running condition and then not run it!
It will be getting cosmetically restored for indoor display. An operational restoration would likely involve removing most of the material that makes it a historic locomotive
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It is not the oldest steam engine in the U.S. That honor goes to the John Bull, built in 1831 and currently resides in the Smithsonian in D.C. As noted in the attachment, it was actually restored to service for its 150th anniversary in 1981. From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bull_(locomotive)
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It is not the oldest steam engine in the U.S. That honor goes to the John Bull, built in 1831 and currently resides in the Smithsonian in D.C. As noted in the attachment, it was actually restored to service for its 150th anniversary in 1981. From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bull_(locomotive)
And operated where........New Jersey.

For 120,000 bucks it should be running! Look at it there is not much to it....120,000 bucks!
Heck Give it to DonF, for a thousand or so he would have that looking like new.
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For 120,000 bucks it should be running! Look at it there is not much to it....120,000 bucks!
120K is absolutely nothing for a locomotive restoration.

Although this is a small engine, steam locomotive restorations to full operation can often costs several hundred to millions of dollars depending on the size and complexity of the engine.
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Title correction is in order.....the article said the steam engine is ONE of the oldest in the world....
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If it's just getting a cosmetic "restoration", I'll paint the dang thing for $120,000!
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If it's just getting a cosmetic "restoration", I'll paint the dang thing for $120,000!
I suspect that although it was a very simple locomotive when complete, there are numerous small parts that are missing that will involve researching to figure out what the lost pieces looked like. Then casting and/or machining replacements will be needed and that definitely can add up quickly. That's not to mention rigging costs if lifted by crane (four times), transportation to and from the restoration site, etc.

Good cosmetic restorations involve a lot more than a simple paint job. The PRR 4-4-2 #460 at the RR Museum of PA is a good example of that. If you look at any of their posts about the restoration process for that locomotive, you'll see things that are generally done when restoring one to operation (although they didn't take it that far). As it sits on display, it looks complete and ready for service.







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120K is absolutely nothing for a locomotive restoration.

Although this is a small engine, steam locomotive restorations to full operation can often costs several hundred to millions of dollars depending on the size and complexity of the engine.
That is why I said for that much money it should be running.

If the 120 grand is just for cosmetics they are getting hosed.
We are not looking at a Big Boy restoration.
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