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Old 02-14-2020, 12:41 AM   #1
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1110 Locomotive Engine Requesting Help

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I was given 3 1110 locomotives. 1 was the family's train from the '50s that was dropped this Christmas, shattering the motor. The owners purchased 2 more locos on ebay that have their own problems.
Anyhow since I was the only train guy they knew they asked me to see if I could make one out of 3 that runs. I warned them though, that I was just a beginning Am Flyer fixer. So I come to this forum to hopefully get some education.
I have cleaned the "drums/brush holders" and the drum contacts.
But the loco has some problems changing directions. Once it gets going in either direction it runs great.
I am thinking that maybe the drums need to be installed in a particular orientation like the timing gears a car.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-14-2020, 04:48 AM   #2
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Here's some info about the 1110: https://www.tandem-associates.com/li..._1110_loco.htm

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Old 02-14-2020, 05:39 AM   #3
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The 1110 doesn't have an Ives-style e-unit like other postwar Lionel.
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Old 02-14-2020, 09:34 AM   #4
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Here is the service manual for the Scout type locomotives explaining the positioning of the drums.

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/locos/loc1001b.pdf

They need to go in the proper way to function properly.


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Old 02-14-2020, 09:55 AM   #5
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Once you get the drums oriented the correct way, then you come to the real problem! This motor has a moveable section of the field that actually advances the drums, that seems to be the most problematic part of the unit. This is one locomotive that I was forced to admit defeat when trying to get it to run reliably!
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Old 02-14-2020, 12:55 PM   #6
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1062 has the same motor

I updated some pictures on this thread
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Old 02-14-2020, 01:24 PM   #7
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The description of the reversing is very useful.

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/locos/loc1001a.pdf

Too bad I couldn't make the stinkin' thing work reliably!
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Old 02-14-2020, 05:33 PM   #8
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GRJ has said he gave up on this one, and several things I've read say IF you decide to take it apart, it is a "bear" to put back together. So, my question is -- Is there a replacement motor that will fit into the 1110, 6110, etc without too much modification?
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Old 02-15-2020, 09:30 AM   #9
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If you look at my thread and see the insides of the motor, there are many contacts points that could be cleaned. If the engine runs just run it lock the position if you have too.
The point is to self clean the wheel contacts. If they are dirty the engine will easily loose contact and reverse.
Then with that cleaned up look at the drum orientation. They must be spaced correctly for the engine to go in one direction. It is a go or no go setup. The top wiper should only have one contact to a drum at on time when they spin.

If you get into the case beware the spring. It has to be in place to advance the drums.

It only takes one bad contact to stop it.

John has the best diagram of the circuit, when you open the case there are a lot more copper parts.

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Old 02-15-2020, 09:51 AM   #10
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Someone mentioned is there a motor that will fit.
I believe the box cab 520 spur gear motor may fit with a little modification.
There are other small lionel spur gear motors one with the e-unit lever in the down position.
Had a similar motor like the OP and they are a genuine pain to fix once taken apart .
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