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Old 08-16-2011, 09:28 AM   #1
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New Layout - 14x16 switching layout with staging

I figured I'd go ahead and start a new build thread for this switching layout I've decided to build by recycling my old 11x13 torn up from the move.

The Plan:
  • A switching style layout (point to point).
  • 4 track staging yard w/run-around track on lower level separated 11-12" from main level w/turntable at deadend to turn engines.
  • Climb from staging @ ~2.7% grade
  • Max train is 10 cars (I like long trains, but the dead end nature of this type layout doesn't really allow for them)
  • Industries both North and South from yard. Yard provides interchange between Class 1 railroads and local shortline RR (My kids like the idea of the RC&E - Reid City & Evansville Line)
    - South from yard are a Mine and a Grain Elevator (maybe 1 other industry)
    - North from yard will be some city type industries (Mill, Warehouse, etc)
  • Good sized yard with Engine house and Car shop, A/D track, caboose track and 3-4 classification tracks

Here's the staging level and the approach into town....

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File Type: jpg RC&E staging.JPG (52.8 KB, 2824 views)
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:28 AM   #2
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First - the teardown......





I'm going through all of the pieces and removing the wiring/track. I'm probably going to re-use the 2' deep corner section in the top pic and try to keep some of the larger benchwork intact (to save labor/effort). I'll be removing all of the top layer stuff and just keeping the structure. Looks like I'll need all new roadbed as this stuff doesn't like to separate from the wood very well.

Here are some of the recycled parts from a couple hours of teardown (still have 3 large sections to go through)









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File Type: jpg 081511 Recycled Turnouts.jpg (171.9 KB, 2798 views)
File Type: jpg 081511 Recycled wiring.jpg (96.6 KB, 2769 views)
File Type: jpg Recycled Misc.jpg (74.8 KB, 2681 views)
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:45 AM   #3
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Now the new area to be filled. Layout will run along 3 walls with a peninsula to hide the grade from staging to the main level and to provide a turnaround loop and longer yard. 6 feet on the LH leg, 13.5 ft across back wall, 8 feet up the visible stud wall then out onto a 5'x7' peninsula.

The committee said as long as I keep access to the shelves convenient and use materials I already have that she doesn't care what I do. She may regret that statement















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File Type: jpg 081511 New Shelves2.jpg (89.1 KB, 2731 views)
File Type: jpg 081511 Misc Bldgs.jpg (79.1 KB, 2726 views)
File Type: jpg 081511 Staging yard location.jpg (57.9 KB, 2720 views)
File Type: jpg 081511 Return loop.jpg (78.0 KB, 2710 views)
File Type: jpg 081511 Stored Stuff.jpg (192.8 KB, 107 views)
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Old 08-18-2011, 01:06 PM   #4
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Well....I've been playing around with how to have a nice sized yard and capacity for ~8 car trains on the whole layout. This is what I've come up with.



This gives me (2) A/D tracks (one for arriving trains, one for departing trains) and 3 decent length classification tracks. I went for a single ended yard as the yard ladder was eating up too much real estate.

The trains come out of staging into a country scene (think hilly terrain and lots of trees, etc.). At the wye, the train can either go to the right through the curve out to the industries (I've already got 3 planned, maybe 1 more to fit in) or it can go straight through into the yard. Once in the yard, there is an escape track at the end of A/D #1 to allow the engine to get out and go for servicing. This is where all trains will pull in.

The yard switcher will either pull the cars and put them on 1 of 3 classification tracks, or it will take already classified cars and spot them on A/D #2 for departure by either the local (go to industries) or the Class 1 connection going out to points off-layout (back to staging)

By turning the yard around and dead ending it I've given this switcher layout a decent mainline run and also created a little vertical variety. The shaded grey area sits ~4" below the yard and has 1 small industry spur with room for 1 car to be spotted and (1) inside the building.

This layout will have a few scenes broken up by backdrops....that's what the angled "walls" are on either end of the yard.

Whaddya think?
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Old 08-21-2011, 10:20 PM   #5
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Good Stuff, I have stared at this for quite a while now and I must say it looks real good to me. I look forward to seeing the progress!!
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Old 08-21-2011, 10:36 PM   #6
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So what is the other part of it for? I only see half of it drawn in with track and buildings.
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this is going to be good....can't wait to see how it comes out
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:56 AM   #8
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So I finished designing the main level of the layout (industrial branch)

I'm going to have to change around how the staging climbs into the main level as there is a clearance problem between the topmost curve coming up and the wye leg going to the industries. I'll just keep the tracks from staging down lower and coil them up one side helix-style to avoid the current cross-over problem. Better to figure this out now in the drawing stage than find out that it won't work with a ton of benchwork completed.

The (2) main industries shown are the mine (I've got 24 of the Michigan style ore cars) and a large grain complex. Once I have those in I'll see where I've got room to add a couple industries along the backdrop. I also want to leave plenty of room for roads/etc as my kids love driving the various vehicles around the layout. Similar to my last layout I'm going to have a large put adjacent to the mine to give them a place to play with the construction vehicles we've got (HO scale of course)

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Old 08-22-2011, 10:12 AM   #9
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Got the old yard torn off of the benchwork and mounted it and the benchwork from my 2x6 diorama against the walls to try out the set height of staging/main level as well as test clearance.

Lower shelf seen here is the start of the staging end and the L-shape is the corner coming out of the yard and into the industries.

Staging will only be 12" deep from the front edge with a backdrop. Clearance above rails is ~8" With the depth, this height seems adequate.







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Old 08-22-2011, 11:19 AM   #10
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Are those screws for a reinforcement strip behind that notched area I'm seeing? I hope so. Also, you should screw and/or glue-fasten your table-top surface to the top edge of the 1x3 for some distance in way of that notch to reinforce it further. It'll help create a stiffer I-beam type of structure.

I like the tucked-under staging area ... neat!

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