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looking for a lionel 258 service manual .
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Good luck!
I looked in one of my service manuals and found nothing for that #.
I will look later in my other as it is down in my dungeon.:laugh:
Maybe the T-Man will dig one up as my quick Google didn't find one either.
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$35?
that place wants $35 . doesn't someone have that disk? i have a loose wire and cant tell where it it is from. an dont know where it goes
that place wants $35 . doesn't someone have that disk? i have a loose wire and cant tell where it it is from. an dont know where it goes
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http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/b123/000374.pdf never mind i found it . thank you t-man
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A lionel service CD might be of use to you. For prewar you can view some catalogs. The 56/57 booklet has alot of info. There is one on ebay for 6 with shipping.
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uggggggg
yea not working. that diagram is some how different or i just don't understand it. tring to solder more wires broke off due to old solder joints. now i dont know where the wires go im confused and this wire is weak and old . i need to rewire the whole thing . but don't know where wires go. it would be nice if that diagram was labeled + and - . it doesn't match up i dont think.
is anyone on here proficiant in prewar engines?
yea not working. that diagram is some how different or i just don't understand it. tring to solder more wires broke off due to old solder joints. now i dont know where the wires go im confused and this wire is weak and old . i need to rewire the whole thing . but don't know where wires go. it would be nice if that diagram was labeled + and - . it doesn't match up i dont think.
is anyone on here proficiant in prewar engines?
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Your kidding Right?
Does it have the manual reverse?
On that switch is a connection from the center rail. Lets call this hot. The hot, will feed a wire to the motor coil to generate the magnetic field to make it turn. The coil is then grounded to the frame and outer rails. Next two wires will come from the motor commutators. By attaching the the hot to one of these wires and grounding the other determines direction.
Post a picture of the connections and I can draw the wires in.
Does it have the manual reverse?
On that switch is a connection from the center rail. Lets call this hot. The hot, will feed a wire to the motor coil to generate the magnetic field to make it turn. The coil is then grounded to the frame and outer rails. Next two wires will come from the motor commutators. By attaching the the hot to one of these wires and grounding the other determines direction.
Post a picture of the connections and I can draw the wires in.
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not kidding
ok like for example the wound copper coil seems to have a strand grounded to the chassis too? i cant tell whats going on . the diagram shows two wires going to the brushes, but on my train onl one of them has a lug? i just cant tell. here is a vid, if it isnt clear i will take another one. don't mind my 3 year old singing
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pretty much now all the wires are broken off they are old and frail. the one from the touch plate , is still intact, that one runs to the light bulb base. its black.
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The correct diagram is at the bottom link. Now CLEAN that engine!!!!!! Please
I removed the big picture it was bugging me.
As I said all the theory is the same. You need two wires from each can/commutator to run to the e unit. Looking at that lever the right where it touches is a connection to the outside rail. This iswhere the unit coil is normally connected to ground out and cycle.
The motor coil is grounded to the frame and I believe attaches to the HOT point
Two the left of the lever is the HOT The center roller connects here and a wire runs to your light and to the coil. All that is left is the two cans each wire must connect to the e unit so when the drum rotates the direction changes . I do not know if you have neutral it could be two position or three.
I cannot see the e unit clearly. You need more light
I found the olsen diagram it is the same as the 259e
I removed the big picture it was bugging me.
As I said all the theory is the same. You need two wires from each can/commutator to run to the e unit. Looking at that lever the right where it touches is a connection to the outside rail. This iswhere the unit coil is normally connected to ground out and cycle.
The motor coil is grounded to the frame and I believe attaches to the HOT point
Two the left of the lever is the HOT The center roller connects here and a wire runs to your light and to the coil. All that is left is the two cans each wire must connect to the e unit so when the drum rotates the direction changes . I do not know if you have neutral it could be two position or three.
I cannot see the e unit clearly. You need more light
I found the olsen diagram it is the same as the 259e
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Yea, the 258 and 259 are pretty much the same... OP, I have a 259E that I can take a couple pictures of if you would like to have something beyond the diagram...
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This thread has been kicking the life from me. Finally a Savior!.:worshippy:
He needs the eunit connections from the brushes and the coil. Please
Can you find it in your closet?
I can sympathize with your dilemma. I had mine in boxes for as long as 20 years before my table arrived.
He needs the eunit connections from the brushes and the coil. Please
Can you find it in your closet?
I can sympathize with your dilemma. I had mine in boxes for as long as 20 years before my table arrived.
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that diagram makes alot more sence as it is the one im looking at , i think i got it from here !!!! thanks so much!
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I hope you can wait until tomorrow morning
I may be able to get to it tonight though :dunno:
I may be able to get to it tonight though :dunno:
Good, now I know what to take pictures ofThis thread has been kicking the life from me. Finally a Savior!.:worshippy:
He needs the eunit connections from the brushes and the coil. Please
Can you find it in your closet?
I can sympathize with your dilemma. I had mine in boxes for as long as 20 years before my table arrived.
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uhhh
i need to rewire this entire thing , all the wires are old and keep snapping . i have wire though so ill just cut some up and just start from scratch using that diagram.
i need to rewire this entire thing , all the wires are old and keep snapping . i have wire though so ill just cut some up and just start from scratch using that diagram.
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Well, there seems to be some slight variations between your 258 and my 259E... You sould be able to take my pictures though and relate it to your setup
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hold for pic
hold for pic, i have that figured out from the diagram pretty good here is where i am having issues , pic to follow have to upload, only one of my brushes has a ring to solder to . can i just solder it right to the can? then ,to coil? where? also there is more bare exposed wire coming off the coil that looks like it needs to be soldered down.
there i believe was only one wire going to the bulf the enitire time , maybe not, i will post pics
hold for pic, i have that figured out from the diagram pretty good here is where i am having issues , pic to follow have to upload, only one of my brushes has a ring to solder to . can i just solder it right to the can? then ,to coil? where? also there is more bare exposed wire coming off the coil that looks like it needs to be soldered down.
there i believe was only one wire going to the bulf the enitire time , maybe not, i will post pics
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