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When was the 302AC made?? I believe I know the answer,(1950,51), but I'm in a discussion with a person who saws the 302AC was made in 1948, with a 4-piece boiler..I' ve never seen or heard of one?????
 

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According to "Greenberg's Guide - 1991" 1948 (4 piece cast boiler), 1951>52 (1 piece cast boiler and later 1 piece plastic boiler). I only have the plastic boiler version.
 

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Flyernut, according to my handy dandy brand new to me 1946-2021 Greenberg American Flyer pocket price guide, the 302AC is listed as a 4 piece boiler with handrails in 1948. Also listed is 1 piece die-cast boiler with hand rails made in 1950-51. I do have one but will have to check to see which die-cast version I have. Lastly, as Sagas reports, a plastic version with extended cast handrails from 1952 is listed also. All 3 versions are shown in David Doyle's American Flyer Trains book. The 4 piece boiler type I version has a scarcity rating of 2, while the type II 1 piece boiler version, has a scarcity rating of 3.

How are you doing now days?

Kenny
 

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I have a 1948 302AC in my collection with the wire handrails and detailed valve gear. All the 4 piece die cast Atlantics with wire handrails have the extra linkage, even the 300's. The only variation in the linkage is the first runs of the 1946 engines used the prewar crosshead design. The difference is very subtle.
 

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Flyernut, according to my handy dandy brand new to me 1946-2021 Greenberg American Flyer pocket price guide, the 302AC is listed as a 4 piece boiler with handrails in 1948. Also listed is 1 piece die-cast boiler with hand rails made in 1950-51. I do have one but will have to check to see which die-cast version I have. Lastly, as Sagas reports, a plastic version with extended cast handrails from 1952 is listed also. All 3 versions are shown in David Doyle's American Flyer Trains book. The 4 piece boiler type I version has a scarcity rating of 2, while the type II 1 piece boiler version, has a scarcity rating of 3.

How are you doing now days?

Kenny
My heart monitor I wore for 2 weeks showed a bad irregular heart-beat.. I was ordered to have a full stress test on a tread-mill within 24 hours for check for a blockage in the lower heart.. The monitor also showed the bottom of my heart wasn't working too well.After all those tests the cardiologist called and said they found no blockages in the heart.So now, I'm being sent to a heart specialist that deals with the electric impulses to the heart..I think I'll bring along one of my ZW's.......
 

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I know how you feel since having also gone through the same procedures you have over the last few years and now go every two years for full tests (due to age, over 70) which is pretty much an all day affair. The only difference currently is that they chemically induce heart stress but the rest remains the same (nuclear tracer, echo and full scan). I am scheduled next week for for the full package which I don't look forward to but is a necessary evil these days. Hopefully you will get some positive results after everything is completed. Barry
 

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Finally got pictures of my 302 AC. As with my other engines it was bought years ago and does need some work as evidenced by the one white wall and erratic running. No hand rails but it does have the 3 spring truck. I had forgotten if it had the rails. I was hoping it did. Since it didn't run properly back when I bought it, it was put aside as a future project. I guess the future never got to it yet.

Flyer nut, hoping for the best in your health issues. Although I've never experienced what you are going through, my late wife spent many years dealing with constant heart issues so I can understand your issues. That ZW ought to help.

Kenny


AF 302AC 020.jpg
AF 302AC 017.jpg
 

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It looks pretty good Kenny. I would be embarrassed to say how many engines I have that need
to go into the repair shop. I buy them and put them away. I think a layout and a dedicated work
bench would help. I have at least 4 engines laying around my TV room. And maybe 20 cars. I
have let my inventory list get completely out of hand. I have no idea how many locomotives or
cars I have. More than I can handle for sure. I did the same thing with my HO trains. I know I
have over 130 HO engines and more than 500 pieces of HO rolling stock. I think I like buying
more than running. Maybe more money than sense. I guess I am a collector.
 

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On that whitewall, just fill it in with white paint. The lettering on your 302AC is nice.
 

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Thanks mopac. Fixing that white wall the way you mentioned is exactly the way I had in mind. I have done that before and it is not noticeable unless the looker is using a magnifying glass. It seems as though you and I have the same collecting habits and philosophy. I buy stuff that I know will need work but only slowly get to it. The odd thing is, I don't mind fixing things since I come from the world of car restoration, but as the adage goes, "so many trains, so little time". I can only do so much. I too have a huge HO collection stored away since that's where I started with layouts before I had the space to finally build my present American Flyer. It's all pre-DCC stuff. Old.

Kenny
 
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