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That is the truth! I wanted to have a container yard with a crane and bunch of cars and tractors trailers in it but the cost was crazy for those things! Can’t believe how much the containers go for in any scale they seem to cost the same. I gave up on that idea real quick!
I just had a look on ebay and the LPG cars are going for roughly C$50 - C$80+ each, plus it is about C$30 for shipping from the US. I'm sorry, but they aren't worth that. I'd pay at most C$37/each with no shipping cost.

I was wanting to have a little propane setup on my layout, but not with the prices of the cars I'm not. Maybe I'll find some at the April swap meet
 

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Tanker cars and container well cars are pricey I agree. Maybe all the detail? Containers are expensive too - if I can’t buy a rectangular piece of plastic for less than $15 then I pass on it.

Oh and I’ll always make a trip to Hobby Wholesale on Gateway Blvd. Love that store.

There are a lot more train shops in Calgary though.
They aren't worth over C$50 each though. If they were more reasonable around C$37 each it wouldn't be so bad.

Yup, Hobby Wholesale, the only hobby store in the entire metro area that sells model train stuff. 3-4 years ago we had at least 6-8 hobby stores, now we are down to just a couple. It sucks though, because it means HW can charge a premium for the stock because they basically have a monopoly. It is also amazing how much that store has expanded over the past couple of years too
 

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This is the plan that I am basing my layout on, but putting my own scenery and stuff in and expanding the length and width. It has all the turn out #'s and the radius. I am hoping that I should be able to use this for my radius size and everything correct?

 

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Nice plan. I like it.

I’m always looking at eBay, kijiji, craigslist, and out here castanet for deals. Look long enough and there are deals to be had. The key is to find stuff in Canada so shipping doesn’t kill you although I have bought some from the US as long as the total price is palatable. I have bought some things retail too.

Most of my locomotives were off eBay so including shipping I didn’t want to spend more than $125 CAN for a DC loco as I needed to get a DCC decoder too.

My four green Procor tanker cars (my favorite) were about $150 CAN shipped.

I picked up a few lots of containers over the years - some ended up being like $10 CAN each inc shipping!

The four 5-car Thrall were retail like $100 per pop.

Look around and be patient and over time you’ll build up a good fleet of pulling power and have some nice rolling stock.
 

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That is the truth! I wanted to have a container yard with a crane and bunch of cars and tractors trailers in it but the cost was crazy for those things! Can’t believe how much the containers go for in any scale they seem to cost the same. I gave up on that idea real quick!
I just had a look on ebay and the LPG cars are going for roughly C$50 - C$80+ each, plus it is about C$30 for shipping from the US. I'm sorry, but they aren't worth that. I'd pay at most C$37/each with no shipping cost.

I was wanting to have a little propane setup on my layout, but not with the prices of the cars I'm not. Maybe I'll find some at the April swap meet
Yeah the prices on some stuff is crazy I watch eBay every day to find deals. Sometimes I get lucky. I go to as many train shows as I can because I hate paying shipping but those are totally hit and miss.
 

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Yeah the prices on some stuff is crazy I watch eBay every day to find deals. Sometimes I get lucky. I go to as many train shows as I can because I hate paying shipping but those are totally hit and miss.
Yeah - sometimes the price of the item and what they want for shipping is outrageous. Some sellers need to give their heads a shake.
 

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Ramblings (in short shipping makes money.)
Shipping is to pad profits, I used to work for a online car parts place. We'd import the parts and pack ship it out to save customers the hassle customs and brokerage.

we bought from mainly restoration parts from sellers similar to Summit Racing, prices were converted to CAD(from list not cost), then 30% was added. Shipping on small items was chart based and i never shipped anything out that was under quoted for shipping even on the flat rate chart. If it was LTL i had to pack and quote, then add 30% charge it and send it. (all orders received to us was free shipping)

A simple 60's dash cigarette lighter listed at $15usd, CAD $18.75+30% so $24.38 (cost would of been $15.93cad) shipping was charged flat rate at $15cad, cost would of been about $8.75 unless it was headed to the Yukon lol. So it was a $14.70 Gross profit on that item.

I think the only thing i didn't pack and ship was an engine, and that only because we didn't want the hassle.

Anyways enough Rambling.

Prices can be shocking, when hunting things. Any retailer i find i drop into my bookmarks "Stores" folder and run though them hunting prices and comparing shipping.

Pricing seems to vary widely on some items like locomotives.

Cheers,
Joe
 

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This is the plan that I am basing my layout on, but putting my own scenery and stuff in and expanding the length and width. It has all the turn out #'s and the radius. I am hoping that I should be able to use this for my radius size and everything correct?

John, that's a tried and true plan. I think you will like it. Have you thought about how you will get into the center?
 

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John, that's a tried and true plan. I think you will like it. Have you thought about how you will get into the center?
Here is Rev 4 sketch of my layout, showing the track. I have basically extended the layout in the above example to 10 feet by 10.5 feet and am putting a 2' X 7.5' staging area in the closet with a tunnel thru the wall. And I have made it 2' wide instead of just 1', to give me more room to work with scenery.

I plan on having a hinged lift up at the main door, which I have removed and then a hinged lift up going into the closet. The area going into the closet will have a double bridge and a nice river flowing under it.

I have also added a second mainline and another track along the 32" wide section.

This sketch is to scale, as I copied most of the track from the original layout and extended it. I think it will look good once it is all built!
 

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I have also added a second mainline and another track along the 32" wide section.
32" against the wall is awfully deep reach. those few extra inches add aggravation exponentially. I have 30" shelf , reaching last 6" doing trackwork is pain , once the front gets scenery it will be even worse.
I would strongly advice not going more then 24" deep

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Revision 7 final

Getting the wood at work this weekend and then building it, can't wait. I am maximizing the space of the layout in the room and will leave the peninsula until the very end before installing it.
 

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I would 45 degree the jut outs when you enter the room so you don't hit your hip on those sharp corners.

I'm not sure with the peninsula though. My preference would be to have the middle of the room open so if you have a friend in there running another train you're not bumping into each other. But it's your layout so your rules!

Now start cutting wood!
 
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