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I've added cruise to a Lionel that already had TMCC as new. Which kit do I need to add cruise/TMCC to my DRG Alco PA-1's??

Thanks!!

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You will need a Cruise Commander for these and likely a new Railsounds board. This has very early non modular TMCC so a Cruise M won't work. Worthwhile project though. This engine has two giant motors, much bigger than most all other diesels. The only other one so equiped that I am aware of is the DL&W PA that came out at the same time.
BTW these didn't come with TMCC. The sounds are described as Railsounds but they weren't operated with a handheld. You should open it up a see whats in there first.

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Thanks Pete. I'll open them up later and post a few pics.
 

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Those motors are HUGE!!!

Powered A.

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Non - powered A. Sounds...

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I have to admit I am not familiar with those very early boards but for sure they are not modular TMCC so you will need a Full blown Cruise Commander and a Railsounds board. QSI sound was designed to accept DC offsets and not serial data. You will have room for a large speaker with an enclosure so sound should be excellent.

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Now to muster up a little courage!! I added Cruise to a TMCC diesel years ago and it turned out fine.

Hard part is just pulling out the current electronics and trusting yourself!!
 

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This engine will be worth the effort. It, along with the D,L,&W version were built by Samhongsa. Besides the bigger motors it has better detail than the PAs Lionel built a few years later. Maybe even better than the Legacy ones recently released but I have not seen those yet.

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This engine will be worth the effort. It, along with the D,L,&W version were built by Samhongsa. Besides the bigger motors it has better detail than the PAs Lionel built a few years later. Maybe even better than the Legacy ones recently released but I have not seen those yet.

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The ATSF and NYC PAs Lionel made in Michigan in 1997 use the same motors, but the tooling was modified to reduce a lot of the add on detail. I have and ABA set of the ATSF PAs from 1997 (two powered A units, Railsounds B unit). I'll eventually upgrade them with ERR Cruise Commanders but, as they sit with 4 of those big motors, they can pull like crazy.
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