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Yep, I'd say that one isn't quite finished! :D
Come on it's almost there!!! My brother was big into those little model fighting chess like things and ended up doing something to the other half I'll have to take pictures it looks like a 14 year old did it which was about how old he was when he did whatever he did to it!!!!

A lot of fun to be had here!! Good for you!!
Can't wait!!!

Might could use a tweak here and there.

(and I thought my truck was dirty):rolleyes:
I can't take credit it's my dad's truck :unsure:

Granite Gorge?
That's what I was thinking.
Are you talking about what the layout is? This is from 20+ years ago and we couldn't find the original plans we tried modeling it after no matter how hard we looked...
 

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I think its atlas plan 28 granite gorge and northern. Unfortunately you have to pay for atlas 7 plans book in order to look
Thanks for the info. I was planning on redoing it all over again anyways but also wanted to see the plans to try and adjust to my PRR plans as easily as possible.
 

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After doing a ton of research I've decided I wanted to scrap the 4x8'ish plans and try and do a longer L shaped layout. A friend of mine has a nice B&M layout in his basement and I feel the long narrow plan with a few switch and coal yards in the middle would be better with large loops at the ends. I haven't run these new plans by the wife but she did approve of the modified 4x8 plan that was marked out with the painters tape... Plan was to cover up the cat boxes and the two bins that hold the dog food...

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As you can tell we have a few bins crammed into shelving units that were already in the basement when we bought the house so we just threw the bins in there... I would plan on putting all the bins under the layout and I can fit 2 bins easily under the 42" height...

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I plan to try and do a PRR themed layout with 3 main lines with the center one being a reverse loop so I could run 2 trains on the main lines constantly... I did a quick plan on SCARM with quick measurements from the area...

I plan to add a switch yard and maybe even a coal yard and wasn't sure if it would look better in the front or if I put the mainlines towards the front and have the yards in the back?

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Everything about has a minimum 22" radius and I would make the bump outs more rounded it was just easier to do the outline like that. Layout would be 42" high which would fit in right under the stairs... My only issue is I only have 40-42" on the top right of the diagram due to the chimney vent stack and the hot water heater. So I could either shorten the turns for the loops (will be out of view really anyways and thought about putting a mountain over that area anyways and reduce the curves to 18" radius of shorten that section from 10 feet to only 7 feet and bump it out to 48" to accomidate the 22" radius... Thoughts?

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In the first pic... usually when you see 2x4s stacked like that they're load bearing, but I can't really tell and they seem to be at an odd angle.
Yeah that was from the previous owner they had a "closet" to hang stuff from there... It's just lightly screwed to the center beam of the house...

Second pic, behind the shelving unit in the foreground... on the layout diagram it looks like you're planning on going extending back in that alcove, but I see plumbing back there.
Yes that's the main sewer line. I have 10 feet from the corner to there but only 40-42" in width mainly due to the chimney stack. I can either make it a much tighter that I'd like to turn or only go out 7 feet and allow the 48" or more for a 22 inch curve... I'm torn...

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Move the WH back there? I see it's gas and I see copper plumbing, so it wouldn't be a no-brainer...

Just spitballing...
Mind blown... Didn't even think of that and I've hated it always being there... I did get a whole house water softener installed a few months ago and if and hopefully when I get to finish that half of the basement I'd need to move it and my plumber said it would be easy to move so this hot water heater would be even easier...

Or I could be proactive and just get a new hot water tank before it goes seeing how its 10+ years old and it's been subject to horribly hard water lol...

I'll be texting my plumber friend tomorrow to inquire...
 

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So I found out through researching today that the PRR mainline from Philly to Pittsburgh goes right through the town my parents lived in when I was first born before we moved to New England shortly after my 1st birthday! So guess what town will definitely be in the layout? That one!!! (Malvern/Chester)
 

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One thing to keep in mind with a basement layout is future service of things like the water heater/ furnace. Part of my layout will have to be semi removable for the inevitable replacement of said items.
Yes I plan to make the section(s) near the lines semi-removable but they can also be accessed on the other side by moving some shelving as well...
 

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At that age and what it's been subject to, it's due to be replaced... model RR or not. Replacing an aged WH is one of the first/best/easiest things you can do to improve the energy efficiency of a home, because it's one appliance that is "always on".

A "tall" style WH will have a smaller footprint and, from what I can see from the one pic, should fit back there.
I already called the plumber and discussed options. I want to go with a stainless steal direct model which is 3 times the price of replacing the indirect one but has a lifetime warranty...

The thing with going from a short to tall water heater is you will have to redo the plumbing and might have issues with the exhaust vent. I went to a tall and was barely able to get enough angle on the exhaust vent to not have issues.
Moving it isn't the issue my plumber barely charges for simple pipe stuff and if he's putting in something large like that he always asks me if I want it moved since he's already hacking up the pipes!!!
 

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I would not suggest going to 18" radius if you can help it. For reasons of space, I built my layout with 20" radius, and I have had to be very careful about even the smallest imperfection in the track on those curves derailing my longer box cars and locomotives.
If the water heater gets moved I can easily do the 22 or more radius turn... How fast it gets replaced depends on how much the bathroom remodel ends up costing 🤪

I replaced my water heater last month after 17+ years, it had a little rust on an intake pipe. They asked if I wanted stainless steel with a 10 year warranty or fiberglass with a lifetime warranty for almost double the price. I went with steel because at my age there is very little difference between 10 years and lifetime. ;)
I almost want to push it but I convinced the wife the lifetime warranty one is worth it... We have a direct HW heater and we'd be switching to an in-direct HW heater which our plumber says saves money (boiler is more efficient than a HW heater) and it makes the boiler fire up at least once a day so it's not just sitting there all summer...
 

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So I had planned on painting the whole basement with a gray drylock paint this past week while we've had contractors over redoing our upstairs bathroom but they've used the basement to store their tools so that plan went out the door. I did flatten out one half of the two layouts my dad and I built when I was a kid and put a small oval layout to test out some of the way too many items I've already purchased and it's been fun just doing that! Brought back so many memories!

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Even after I told myself numerous times I needed to stop buying stuff and wait to buy the layout I have been unsuccessful... I luckily added up all my purchases and had a slight bit of sticker shock so I think I'm really done for now... The 2nd to last purchase I made was for a brand new in the box PRR K4 4-6-2 Bachman Spectrum engine that I couldn't resist for the price! I set it up yesterday and ran it around and it was awesome!

 
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