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Hello All I was just drooling ( all over the sofa) at the Class Z-6 Chalenger in Model Railroader July edition. and was wondering what is meant by anarticulated engine.

It would seem that at some point the engine can actually bend so as to go around corners better.

Way out of my price range.

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That's pretty much what it means, Aaron. As steam engines developed, they sort of ran into a roadblock: everyone wanted larger, more powerful engines to go faster, climb steeper grades, and pull more weight. The problem was, how do you make them larger? You can't really go taller or wider: the existing tunnels and bridges ruled both of those out. You could go longer: a longer frame allowed you to have a longer firebox and boiler and increase your power. Add extra wheels to support the weight as well as getting more iron against the rails for traction. The only drawback was that the curves in the rails limited how long you could get. When you have 4 drive wheels, you can cut a pretty tight curve. Those big puppies won't flex, though, so when you have eight drive wheels, you've cut your turning radius in half and can't go places you'd like to. The solution was to create a sort of hinge or pivot point under the engine to split the drivewheels into two groups, the front group being able to pivot. It required that they have their own sets of steam lines and valves, a pretty complicated arrangement. One of the early ones was designed by a Frenchman named Mallet (pronounced Mal lay). Sometimes you'll hear them called Mallets, like the hammer.
 

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Great 'splainin'...:thumbsup:
One note to make about model articulateds---on models, both forward and rear engines are made to swivel for convenience and to help them get around our normally tight track radii. On real locomotives, only the forward engine is made to swivel, the rear one is fixed. The proper term for each group of drivers is "engine" as an articulated is considered two engines under one boiler.

Interestingly, the Pennsy 4-4-4-4 T1, 4-4-6-4 Q2 and B&O 4-4-4-4 N1 are not articulated, they ride as two engines on a single fixed frame and are considered duplexes...the Beano built theirs to sit back to back, putting the cylinders to either end of the drivers, thereby shortening the length of the wheelbase. Only the models of the T1 and Q2 are articulated, incorrectly leading some to believe that the prototypes were.
 

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My AHM articulateds all run very well on 20" radius curves, properly laid out with safe run offs for derailments, you could conceivably make your layout as narrow as 44". My layout is built on an oval that is about 5' x 43"...

 

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Bob, are your articulated engines pre-RP25?

Bob
My Big Boy has the full circa 60s pizza cutters, my Mallet and Cab-Forward have the later .039" done through the 70s. Your Red Boxes were done for a different time, when folks could cough up more space for more generous curves and therefore demand scale sized drivers, making for less flexible tolerances.
 

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I didn't buy either of my Mallets. I traded an AHM Big Boy for one of the Mallets and a Red Box Clinchfield Challenger(rebadged for C&O). The other I bought as junk and rebuilt. I have another, but it needs a motor, a $20 junk special...

As far as building my layout around my engines, I don't think I even owned an SD when I built it, maybe an E7/8 or two. Much to the contrary, I was able to get larger engines BECAUSE of my larger radius turns.

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Ha ha ... I'm sitting here chuckling to myself. I have yet to crack the secret lingo code that you gurus use. I've deciphered a few buzz words, but have to laugh at how this sounds for any non-train person eavesdropping in on the conversation:

"Bob ... My Big Boy has the full circa 60s pizza cutters ... Your Red Boxes were done for a different time, when folks could cough up more space for more generous curves ..."

And the coded reply ...

"I traded a ... Big Boy for one of the Mallets and a Red Box Clinchfield ..."

WHAAAATTTTT ????? :confused::eek::confused:

Hmmmm ... I'm gonna jump in here (just for fun) with some pure gibberish just to see if I can fake my way into the conversation ...

"That's cool. Yeah, I've got some phinorcals on my Rotary Elbows, and the hyper-torque shoes on those Chugger Girls really gets 'em moving round the bend."

How'd I do? Code cracked? :laugh:

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Well, TJ, I guess our knowledge and wisdom, has yet to rub off on you. A Mallett is an articulated that uses both high pressure steam and low pressure steam to run. Norfolk and Western used these monstrosities for coal drags through the Appalachian Mountains. They were also used as "helpers" up grades. Behemoths, at best, these are normally considered some of the strongest engines ever built.

The Clinchfield RR used similar engines, normally referred to as Challengers, with a slightly different wheel configuration, 4-6-6-4 and 2-6-6-4's. These were less powerful than the Mallets, but did have a higher top speed.

There are some articulated engines that are not "compounds". Compound refers to the use of both high pressure and low pressure steam. These engines are thought to be more efficient as they use steam released from one set of drivers to power the second set. An engine can be an articulated and not be a compound, and visa versa.

With the articulated engines, some even had a "split frame" that allowed the drivers, one set mounted to each "section", to be more able to negotiate tighter turns found on some mainlines, especially those found in hilly, mountainous areas of the coal mines.

Here area couple of links that may explain things a bit better.

Articulated engines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_locomotive

Compound Steam Engines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_engine

By the way, you would never make a code breaker................ Stick to breaking wind.

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Bob,

I read through that wiki link a bit. Fascinating. Thanks for the info.

So on a true Mallett (articulating, compound), with the fwd articulating truck having it's steam chest in the front, how does steam get to/from the chest? There must be some flexible insulated hoses or pipes???

Also, aren't there also articulated locos that have the steam chests next to each other, i.e., fwd truck with chest in rear; rear truck with chest in front?

Thanks!

TJ
 
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