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Thank you both.
Choo Choo
(bless me:laugh
Asked to post some pictures.
I finally bought something else then a train.
I got a 14mp 30 optical zoom camera coming in at the end of the month.:appl:
Maybe I can get some decent pictures with it.
My little 2mp isn't cutting it anymore. I bought it back when 2 mp's were going for $300 bucks.
Choo Choo
(bless me:laugh
Asked to post some pictures.
I finally bought something else then a train.
I got a 14mp 30 optical zoom camera coming in at the end of the month.:appl:
Maybe I can get some decent pictures with it.
My little 2mp isn't cutting it anymore. I bought it back when 2 mp's were going for $300 bucks.
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Don't know?
I get obsessed over the littlest of things.
I only got around 7 or 8 or 9 Bethlehem Steel pieces. maybe 10 or 11?:laugh:
I grew up in Bethlehem Steel territory. Used to be a tank building division 4 blocks away.
Most of the big bridges were built with the steel that came from them. including George Washington and Golden Gate bridges.
Some of the buildings,
Chrysler Building
Empire State Building ( large structural only.)
Madison Square Garden
Merchandise Mart
Rockefeller Center
Alcatraz Island
The steel in these Dams were from them too,
Bonneville Dam
Grand Coulee Dam
Hoover Dam
Bethlehem Steel was also one of the largest shipbuilding companies in the world and one of the most powerful symbols of American industrial manufacturing leadership. Bethlehem Steel's demise is often cited as one of the most prominent examples of the U.S. economy's shift away from industrial manufacturing and its inability to compete with cheap foreign labor.:thumbsdown:
Bethlehem Steel used to symbolize one of the ways what America manufacturing used to be.
But I am not going to start about what America stands for to day.
It's a shame what we have become!
Politics,politics!
And if I type anymore about it all I will do is raise my blood pressure which is high enough.
Plus I guess it's not a post for a RR site.
That's all I got to say on that subject.:smokin:
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Big Ed,
I hear ya ... and I sing (cry?) that same "what happened to America?" song myself.
I'm in the marine industry ... not much large-scale ships built here in the US anymore. Smaller stuff, maybe ... but those are often aluminum or composite.
I'll have to dust off some history reading, but my recollection is that the story of steel going into the Empire State Building is one of the most impressive "Yeah, we can get 'er done" stories of American technological know-how. Am I right that the ENTIRE building was framed in something like 10 months? Steel cast in Pennsyvania was STILL HOT when it arrived in NYC. Could you imagine erecting a building like that today in 10 months? Impossible ... not with all of our beaurocracy, unions, etc.
Chrysler building is an interesting story, too ... Didn't they hide the spire inside the building (to avoid giving away hints about the building's ultimate height), and then raise it up as an intact sub-assembly at the last minute? Stealth spire!
I took a behind-the-scene engineer's tour of Hoover Dam some years ago ... dam structure, culverts, turbines, generators, etc. ... absolutely incredible. Talk about a "get 'er done" project. They did. Wonderfully.
Thanks for the sidebar ... It's always fun to share one's interests, background, etc.
TJ
I hear ya ... and I sing (cry?) that same "what happened to America?" song myself.
I'm in the marine industry ... not much large-scale ships built here in the US anymore. Smaller stuff, maybe ... but those are often aluminum or composite.
I'll have to dust off some history reading, but my recollection is that the story of steel going into the Empire State Building is one of the most impressive "Yeah, we can get 'er done" stories of American technological know-how. Am I right that the ENTIRE building was framed in something like 10 months? Steel cast in Pennsyvania was STILL HOT when it arrived in NYC. Could you imagine erecting a building like that today in 10 months? Impossible ... not with all of our beaurocracy, unions, etc.
Chrysler building is an interesting story, too ... Didn't they hide the spire inside the building (to avoid giving away hints about the building's ultimate height), and then raise it up as an intact sub-assembly at the last minute? Stealth spire!
I took a behind-the-scene engineer's tour of Hoover Dam some years ago ... dam structure, culverts, turbines, generators, etc. ... absolutely incredible. Talk about a "get 'er done" project. They did. Wonderfully.
Thanks for the sidebar ... It's always fun to share one's interests, background, etc.
TJ
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I remember going out boat riding in the NY harbor when the trade centers were going up.
Every week they got a little taller and taller.
I was wondering if they were going to reach the top.
I wonder where the steel came from for them?
I found this on that question a copy and paste,
Construction work began on the North Tower in August 1968 with construction beginning on the South Tower by January 1969. In January 1967, $74 million in contracts were awarded to the Pacific Car and Foundry Company, Laclede Steel Company, Granite City Steel Company, and Karl Koch Erecting Company to supply steel for the project. The Port Authority chose to use many different steel suppliers, bidding on smaller portions of steel, rather than buy larger amounts from a single source such as Bethlehem Steel or U.S. Steel as a cost-saving measure.
I know Bethlehem Steel provided just the biggest steel in the Empire state building. But I know their steel was all over in a lot of stuff.
US steel was big too.
Carnegie Steel Company,started in the 1800's who sold out to US Steel.
I don't know much of the history about the rest of the buildings.
That's it, no more from me now.
I know everyone hates history lessons unless it's about trains. And then there's some who don't even like that.
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Every week they got a little taller and taller.
I was wondering if they were going to reach the top.
I wonder where the steel came from for them?
I found this on that question a copy and paste,
Construction work began on the North Tower in August 1968 with construction beginning on the South Tower by January 1969. In January 1967, $74 million in contracts were awarded to the Pacific Car and Foundry Company, Laclede Steel Company, Granite City Steel Company, and Karl Koch Erecting Company to supply steel for the project. The Port Authority chose to use many different steel suppliers, bidding on smaller portions of steel, rather than buy larger amounts from a single source such as Bethlehem Steel or U.S. Steel as a cost-saving measure.
I know Bethlehem Steel provided just the biggest steel in the Empire state building. But I know their steel was all over in a lot of stuff.
US steel was big too.
Carnegie Steel Company,started in the 1800's who sold out to US Steel.
I don't know much of the history about the rest of the buildings.
That's it, no more from me now.
I know everyone hates history lessons unless it's about trains. And then there's some who don't even like that.
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That was some interesting reading, guys---thanks for taking the time to type and share it. Ed, keep that BP down and take care of yourself, okay? Now, here's a question---something interesting I learned recently. Atop the Empire State Building, there is a tall, vertical shaft. Why is it there?
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Very good! Yep, the uppermost part of the tower was to be a sort of mini-airport for dirigibles---the pole is a mast to which they were to be tethered. Can you imagine climbing down a flimsy gangway in high winds or a winter storm, 1200 feet up with New York's friendly streets ready to catch you if you slip? BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
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