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Connection between Kato turnouts and the next section of track

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#1 ·
I'm kind of a newbie having always worked with temporary HO layouts at Christmas but now I'm making a leap to N for a permanent layout with limited space.
I have a couple of questions, which are real basic type stuff, but it's driving me nuts and before I ruin something because of power connections I would like to get answers to these questions.

First, I saw where the turnout sections of track when using the power will direct the power down one path or the other but not both unless you set it up for no power controls. So, with one route being supplied electricity does that supply power to that entire segment of track to where I don't need to set up a power feed for it?

Second, I noticed the Kato turnouts come with an insulator block connected to the same rail for each route off of the turnout. This block is in the way when trying to make a clean connection between the two sections of track, so far without applying power to anything yet, just trying to work out the layout configuration for a smooth run, I have pressed down on that block to enable the sections to meet. IS THIS A BAD IDEA? without pressing this block down, I wind up with a gap in the connection. What am I doing wrong? and will this cause issues with the turnouts motor?

I haven't bought any turnouts, or track for that matter, in many, many years, and they were Atlas brand for HO. Technology has made some leaps since then and I'm not 100% sure I fully understand all of it yet

Thanks ahead of time for any help I can get on these very basic issues

Dave
with my old HO I would control the power by placing insulator connectors at a joint to control the power for different segments of track. and I can see where that can also be done with the Kato track as well, however when reading up on the Kato #4 and #6 turnouts they take care of controlling the power through the turnouts directional controls, I can see how this works but when the turnout is sending power down one rail will that take care of that entire segment of track?
 
#2 ·
1. Yes, when you use power routing with Kato Unitrack #4 turnouts, the entire track portion beyond the turnout will have power. But I found that it is not practical to power a large yard, for instance, by that single turnout power switch at the entrance. So I only use power switching (routing) for one or two stub tracks.

2. In the middle of the 4 Unijoiners on the turnout, one of the two must be a half joiner. Which I think is not an insulating type. The short track section has a cut out to clear the other track. This track is a bit shorter to match other track length.

 
#3 ·
Thanks DanielC
I can see your point on question #1 and makes sense
for question #2, these connectors the clip that snaps into the next section has the grove for the rail to slide into the connector however on the end of the connector there is a small block of plastic that comes up level with the top of the rail, like an insulator connector would, which prevents the rail from sliding down the connection and leaving a 8th or 16th of an inch gap (size is a guess, big enough for the wheels to fall into, and also prevents the other rail from connecting and the clip from doing its job. I have physically pressed the rail down on top of it till I could get the rail to slide in the clip. to make a solid connection. Four different turnouts and they have all had this. Am I missing something here?
 
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In the top right corner, the right Unijoiner has clip only on one side. That is to clear the track piece on the left side. The left side short track pieces is the same, the top Unijoiner also only has clip on one side. So depending on which pieces you use, one of the 4 Unijoiners has to be this one side clip type.

I think they don't make an isolation Unijoiner (black ones) that has one side clip. If you want to use one, you may have to modify it yourself. I don't know if this helps your issue.
 
#6 ·
I think we are looking at the same thing, I took some closeup pictures as to how the little block on the end blocks the rail from inserting easily like other sections of track do. it covers the end of the clip and has to be pushed down to get the connection. which is why I was thinking it may be like an insulator for the current flow, and the distance between it and the rail is the gap I was referring to. I however see where I was mistaken, the block is not as high as the top of the rail. (these old eyes were playing games with me) so it maybe that I was seeing something that wasn't, I just knew that the connection was harder to make than other sections were adn the little block seemed to be the culprit.

And the forcing of the track to press down the block to get the connection had me concerned that I might be causing and issue and burning up resisters or circuit boards by doing it. That's why I had to ask.

like I said I'm a newbie to this n gauge stuff, and I think the last HO turnout I purchased was probably 30+ years ago, some I've got were my fathers and are over 60 yrs easily. And back then they were labeled switches not turnouts (ha,ha,ha) so I have to keep reminding myself to use the correct terminology for today's stuff. So, these newfangled turnouts are making life interesting as well as the small scale. I look at my layout plan and think there is no way it's going to fit then laying it out it works, not HO anymore, got to stop thinking in old school vision.

Thanks Daniel, for your assistance in (teaching this old dog some new tricks) helping me to understand what I'm doing.

Dave
 

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