[B&O Forever]

I have several Lionel GE 44 Ton locomotives. They have the Type IID motor, which means they don't run will in reverse. The nylon thrust washer does a poor job.

Has anyone found a work around?

I've ordered some parts from Jeff and am trying to get better results.

Anyone?

Thanks

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

I don't understand the question.

 

[B&O Forever]

I don't understand the question.

Fat fingers posted too soon, see the edited question.

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

The shims are all that will help, but I wonder if you could substitute a brush plate that has the screw to minimize armature end play? There is also a ball bearing on the bottom armature shaft of many of these motors, that could be missing?

 

[B&O Forever]

The shims are all that will help, but I wonder if you could substitute a brush plate that has the screw to minimize armature end play? There is also a ball bearing on the bottom armature shaft of many of these motors, that could be missing?

I've ordered extra nylon washers and everything on Jeff's parts page that might fit.

I did replace the brush plate with one from a MPC locomotive. It worked better but not well.

I am going to try a ball bearing in the MPC brursh plate along with some suggestions from a seasoned repainman.

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

The ball bearing in motors so equipped, goes in the bottom well for the armature. When it's missing, the motor runs poorly, if at all. I'm not sure if this one has the ball or not. Check the end play of the armature and see if it's excessive, it should be not more than 1/16" max, and typically even a bit less.

My experience has been usually poor running is due to either commutator/brush problems, or excessive end play of the armature. If you fix both of those and lube the bearings, usually these motors will run well.