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Looking to purchase a DCC Control Station that will both run the Engines and Train lights etc,. as well as DCC Switches ala the Bachmann 44137 & 44138 DCC Crossovers and 44132 & 44133 #5 Turnouts Any Suggestions .. Preferrable wireless or wifi.. Anxiously await replys.:smilie_daumenpos:
 

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I can only recommend the NCE system as that is all I have experience with. I"m very happy with it. I can run six trains, control my turnouts, all locomotive functions, etc.

There are several other popular brands that work well too from what I read here.

NCE can be equipped for wireless operation, but corded is fine with me as there is nowhere on my layout that the cord doesn"t reach if I have to move to a pop-up in the layout.
 

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As mentioned, there are a few very reliable DCC systems available. The important part is support. If you choose the Merl's DCC system because it's $30 cheaper than the next closest, you might have trouble finding anyone else that can help you.
WiFi was mentioned. My experience with it has been terrible. I would consider myself to be and advanced user of DCC (Digitrax) but I am still unable to resolve the bandwidth or intermod problems introduced by the Digitrax Wi-Fi unit. If more than four wireless throttles are logged into my system, people start loosing control of their trains, even after they plug back into a UP5 to regain control. When I unplug the Wi-Fi unit, I have had up to 8 throttles running with no problems.
 

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Thank You for your quick answer..Don't want any issues..

DCC (Digitrax) the digitrax is great looking product.. Looking for something to run 5 or 6 trains and the turn outs.. Which Model Digitrax should I look for.
 

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Tommy

Any one of the several commercially available DCC
controllers can run 3, 4 or even more trains at the
same time. Any one of them can also have either
wired or wireless hand held extra controllers and
even operate your turnouts with stationary decoders.

Digitrax, NCE, MRC and Bachmann are the most
popular systems. All but the Bachmann are full
featured and can even help you 'fine tune' your
decoders. The Bachmann lacks that feature but
is considered the easiest to use and least costly.
Any of these will run your trains, and power lighted passenger
car or caboose lights. However, any building or other
scenic lighting must be powered by a separate source.
The DCC system is for trains only (but can power
turnouts thru some stationary decoders).

Don
 

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Will I be able to run turnouts If I use the Bachmann.. Controller
Not using the DCC unit, no. There are other ways of remotely controlling them, however. And on that note, the Bachmann turnouts and crossovers you're looking at really aren't very good quality, and if you don't have trouble with them from day one, you will shortly thereafter. If you're looking at a complex layout that can realistically support 5-6 locks, you probably want to look at using flex track and commercial turnouts (Peco, Walthers, MicroEngineering, Atlas CustomLine) with remote switch motors rather than roadbed track.

You mentioned WiFi. If you want true WiFi, compatible with smartphones and tablets, then you have to purchase an add-on unit for most systems (except the Roco z21). If you just want WIRELESS operation, MRC, NCE, and Digitrax all have that option. Not the Bachmann.

All of these units are easily capable of handling 5-6 locos..
 

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To Clarify, the ez-command controller will control the bachmann DCC turnouts. I don't remember exactly how to do it, but it is possible, I've done it. But, if I were only going to have one controller it wouldn't be the ez-command, it won't let you do a lot of programming like others will. I use an NCE to program and I do run trains with an ez-command unit because it's easier for other people to use.

I will agree with CTvalleyRR about the quality of of the bachmann turnouts. I use the ez-track for my holiday layout because I had some at the start and just kept using the same stuff. The track is fine, but the turnouts not so much. If I had it to do over again I'd use something else (Kato has roadbed track and turnouts, but not sure they have DCC controlled turnouts)
 

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More companies seem to be following the Roco lead into wifi. Take some time and investigate all of them before making your decision.

I'm not familiar with "the competition", but if you want to see what the Roco z21 system is like, just download the app and try it out.

Roco may have the only dcc system that you can actually "try before you buy".

If you have an Android phone or tablet, go to google play and search on "z21".
Download the app called "z21 mobile" (red locomotive).
Then run it.
Without the actual z21 "box", it won't run any engines on your railroad, but you can still see how the app works, create a new loco, configure it, etc.

If you have an iPhone or iPad, go to the app store and again search on z21 and you can download the "red loco" app.

There is also a slightly newer version of the app. This one has "Z21" in white letters on a black background. It works, but I find the older version easier to use (but you may like the newer one, try both).

The Roco system works with everything I've tried on it.
Getting it running is easy.
Programming is easy.
If it wasn't "easy", I don't think I could do it ! ;)
 

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Bachmann Turnouts yeauch!

Looking to purchase a DCC Control Station that will both run the Engines and Train lights etc,. as well as DCC Switches ala the Bachmann 44137 & 44138 DCC Crossovers and 44132 & 44133 #5 Turnouts Any Suggestions .. Preferrable wireless or wifi.. Anxiously await replys.:smilie_daumenpos:


TommyDapra;

You can control any brand of turnout with a DCC controller, but not directly. The controller sends digital signals out to a "stationary DCC decoder," just as it does to the DCC decoder inside a locomotive. Some stationary decoders have more than one output, enabling them to control more than one turnout. It is the stationary decoder's job to receive digital signals from the DCC system, and send an analog output to the "switch machine." The switch machine actually moves the turnout's point rails, which determine the route the train takes through the turnout. A switch machine can be a solenoid type,like those used by Atlas, and Peco, or a motor, or servo, which can be used with any brand of turnout.
Some turnouts, (Atlas snap switches, Kato Unitrack, and Bachmann EZ-Track) come with switch machines built in. Others need to have an external switch machine installed. At least one switch machine, the Circuitron "Snail" has a stationary DCC decoder built into it. However, in all cases, there needs to be some form of stationary DCC decoder and an electric switch machine of some kind, to operate turnouts with a DCC system. I just looked up the Bachmann 44132 turnout and it seems to have a stationary DCC decoder built into the turnout. Using that would mean settling for a very bad turnout, just to have the stationary decoder built in. In my opinion that's a bad choice. Besides ending up with a very bad turnout, if anything ever went wrong with either the built-in stationary DCC decoder, or the built-in switch machine,(which will fail, I've seen the inside, and It ain't good) Then you would need to remove the entire turnout in order to flip it upside down & remove six screws and the bottom cover plate, just to get at the malfunctional part.

There are also other ways to operate turnouts, besides using a DCC system. The attached file, "All about turnouts" has a section on switch machines that explains all the options. The other files have lots of information on model railroads in general.

If you have not already bought Bachmann turnouts, I strongly recommend you DON"T buy them. They are the worst turnouts available in terms of reliability. If you want to use "roadbed track", with the gray plastic roadbed underneath, Kato Unitrack turnouts, and track, would be a much better choice. If you are OK with plain, non-roadbed, track and turnouts, The Peco turnouts and track are excellent. Micro Engineering track is the most-realistic-looking flex track, and their turnouts are very good too.
Atlas flex track, or sectional track, are both OK, but their "Snap Switch" turnouts are not OK, in fact they are down at the bottom of the quality barrel, with the Bachmann ones. Atlas also makes "Custom Line" turnouts which are better than their "Snap Switches, but not as good as Peco, or Micro Engineering.

If you already have Bachmann EZ-Track that you want to use, it is pretty easy to attach a different brand of much better turnout to the EZ-Track. You can shim the Peco, Micro Engineering, or Atlas custom line, turnout to match the height of the EZ-Track with cork roadbed.

Good luck, & Have fun!

Traction Fan :smilie_daumenpos:

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It's not clear as to what you are asking about the
Bachmann EZ DCC system and controlling turnouts
with it, but I'll try to clarify what the system can do.

No DCC system can provide the power for turnout
motors unless those are powered thru a stationary
DCC decoder.

The EZ system can control the turnouts, but it would
be awkward. The EZ controller has ability to list only
10 locos. and using its 'function' facility you would
again have ability to control only a few turnouts.

If you want to actually control your turnouts thru
the DCC controller you should consider Digitrax,
NCE or MRC. Their controllers have a much greater
range of control factors.

I don't have experience with EZ track and it's accessories.
I personally prefer flex track with Peco Insulfrog
turnouts. The Pecos can be DCC controlled by using
stationary decoders.

Don
 
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