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Hey so I’m pretty sure I can get this Bachman DCC Loco and my Laayout is Dc so can I use a DCC Loco on my DC Layout I need to know before I purchase. Thanks
 

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99% of all new-production DCC locos will work in DC. You just won't have the same control over the functions (beyond the motor, that is).
 

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There will be some oddities. A DCC loco with setting for both DC and DCC will behave differently. For example, when you throttle up in DC, the decoder takes a second or two to read the track voltage, and decide to run as DC. Unlike the DC locos that start right out with no delay.

And, if you DC throttle does not have a true zero voltage, your DCC loco may have trouble switching to reverse.

One more thing, in most decoder, you can turnoff the DC capability, I've turned mine off, if your new loco is preowned, it may be turned o and will not run on DC.
 

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There will be some oddities. A DCC loco with setting for both DC and DCC will behave differently. For example, when you throttle up in DC, the decoder takes a second or two to read the track voltage, and decide to run as DC. Unlike the DC locos that start right out with no delay.

And, if you DC throttle does not have a true zero voltage, your DCC loco may have trouble switching to reverse.

One more thing, in most decoder, you can turnoff the DC capability, I've turned mine off, if your new loco is preowned, it may be turned o and will not run on DC.
Mine would be new this is the link for the one I might get

 

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If it is DCC ready, it means it is ready to be DCC. As in, no decoder yet. It's a DC locomotive assembled so that one can add a decoder to it relatively easily. So, if you only have a DC system at the moment, it will run normally as a DC locomotive.
 

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If it is DCC ready, it means it is ready to be DCC. As in, no decoder yet. It's a DC locomotive assembled so that one can add a decoder to it relatively easily. So, if you only have a DC system at the moment, it will run normally as a DC locomotive.
Ok I need to know this stuff do I dint break it
 

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The term 'DCC-ready' was quickly adopted by the industry about 17 years ago when DCC was gaining a lot of traction and more purchasers were wanting DCC-installed locomotives, especially those with sound. But, the market was still heavily populated by people using various forms of DC control, some of them surprisingly sophisticated and capable, highly similar to DCC. The importers like Bachmann and Life Like (before Walthers purchased Life Like in early 2006), began to import locomotives that were easy to convert to DCC. But that's the point...they needed decoders to be selected for the right qualities, including the sound files installed, and they also needed the user to decide if they were going to also purchase a DCC system and retrofit their layouts.

So, unless you have information that contradicts my assertion, your DCC-Ready locomotive is still a DC model, and you can safely run it. The nice thing is, and it's highly likely before long, you'll decide you want to convert to DCC for some reason that you'll discern as you learn more. At that time, adding a decoder should be relatively straightforward. But, if the seller hasn't modified the loco by adding a decoder, it is strictly DC at the moment. I hope you enjoy it.
 

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The term 'DCC-ready' was quickly adopted by the industry about 17 years ago when DCC was gaining a lot of traction and more purchasers were wanting DCC-installed locomotives, especially those with sound. But, the market was still heavily populated by people using various forms of DC control, some of them surprisingly sophisticated and capable, highly similar to DCC. The importers like Bachmann and Life Like (before Walthers purchased Life Like in early 2006), began to import locomotives that were easy to convert to DCC. But that's the point...they needed decoders to be selected for the right qualities, including the sound files installed, and they also needed the user to decide if they were going to also purchase a DCC system and retrofit their layouts.

So, unless you have information that contradicts my assertion, your DCC-Ready locomotive is still a DC model, and you can safely run it. The nice thing is, and it's highly likely before long, you'll decide you want to convert to DCC for some reason that you'll discern as you learn more. At that time, adding a decoder should be relatively straightforward. But, if the seller hasn't modified the loco by adding a decoder, it is strictly DC at the moment. I hope you enjoy it.
So every if their was a DCC Decocoder in it I could still use it as DC Correct
 

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So every if their was a DCC Decocoder in it I could still use it as DC Correct
Yes. If it's a brand new decoder or decoder-equipped loco, it should run on straight DC or DCC right off the bat.

However, as previously mentioned, if it is a used loco and/or decoder, it's possible the previous owner may have programmed it to only run on DCC. Which is extremely easy enough to UN-program, so to speak, provided you or someone else have a "master" throttle or computer interface to program with.
 

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Only if the decoder was engineered to be 'dual mode'. The first decoders, like the early Soundtracks decoders, would be fried by DC current, I believe. But all sound decoders issued after about 2003/4 were engineered to be 'dual mode', meaning the decoder was by default sensitive to which type of current it was being offered on the rails. If it was DC, the decoder would behave in a restricted way. Lights work, horn and bell can be sounded, and the loco can be reversed. But, that was it. Of course, with DCC, you can do so much more.
 

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Ok I need to know this stuff do I dint break it
Alex;

Your question has been answered, but you sound like you are new to this hobby. Perhaps you would like some more general information. The attached files are some that I wrote to help new model railroaders. Look through them if you like.

Good Luck & Have Fun;

Traction Fan 🙂
 

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like I am new but I’m not I’m just new to the whole DC to DCC thing
Alex;

Your question has been answered, but you sound like you are new to this hobby. Perhaps you would like some more general information. The attached files are some that I wrote to help new model railroaders. Look through them if you like.

Good Luck & Have Fun;

Traction Fan 🙂
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I received one of these about 2weeks ago. It has a 8 pin dummy plug in it that can be removed and a decoder with an 8 pin plug can be installed which is what I did with mine.
 
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