I am probably the only one to feel this way but I would stay away from Broadway limited. I have one and I will never have two. Ok never is a long time but you get the idea. I would say you can't go wrong with Athearn for dependability. I also like Proto 2000 and their heritage for steam. Bachman diesel from my experience, stay away. Their steam, if it is in a black box it is good, silver save your money. There are many more but let someone else chime in here. Also I doubt if you will get people to agree on this with the exception of Athearn Blue Box. They are not detailed,the are noisy, They are hard to find now but they are like a tank or maybe the eveready rabbit. they just keep on going.