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I picked up a MTH 4-4-0 from a dealer who gave me a big break on the price as the engine would not set up or run. After some disassembly of the tender, I tracked down the issue to a short in the rear tender center rail pick up. Not quite a dead short, but enough to keep the engine from setting up. I removed the offending roller and the engine set up and runs nicely now. I am not sure what the issue is just yet. The wiring from the roller to the harness seems correct.

I need to install a BRC2 and it will be good to go…




The engine also had a broken valve gear rod. A very delicate detail, that of course, MTH parts doesn’t list. I was able to drill out the old connecting point and epoxy it back together. It isn’t a high stress situation, so it should hold up.

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I really like these newer 4-4-0s. The high stepping drivers and the chunky boiler look just right to me.
I will likely reletter the tender and cab into something a bit more exotic than the current NYCL lettering. Maybe Erie or Buffalo and Susquehanna…

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Thanks guys. Not an easy engine to find, unfortunately.

Looks like its PS2 3v. Good catch. The valve rod is likely brass so a piece of brass wire may work.

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Pete, yes a PS2/3v engine.

The Engineer’s side valve rod broke off at the connection by the swing hanger. It was all still there, so the work was simply re-attaching the rod to the link…
 

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NIce find on the problem.🔎 It's those little things that can drive a sane man crazy. (y)
Thanks T-Man. It took a couple hours to figure it. My OCD kicked in….lol

I was also researching as to what prototype the MTH model was designed after…no luck yet.

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Nice find TOM!!! Now get those Woodside passenger cars and you got it going on!!! TRAIN ON!!!!
I am looking at the kits that Pete told me about. I also have a couple woodside cars on the way. I have a baggage car kit I am working on now.


It is a nice looking engine. I tried searching about with no luck.
Thanks T-Man. I am sure there is a true prototype they worked from. Just curious as to what road it is from…

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What is the product number Tom? When I searched the cab number at MTH I came up with 20-3154-1, but that apparently is based on a Pennsy D6 with a Belpaire boiler.
here is the number…. 20-3154-1…it comes up on the MTH Website as a NYC 4-4-0


The page shows the NYC engine with a Belpair boiler and the support manual is for the PRR engine. Even the overview describes the PRR engine. Go figure. I wonder how MTH screwed up on that?

This is the one I have…with the radial stay boiler…different tender…

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This is the one they show on the site…with a Belpair boiler…and slightly different steam dome placement…smaller drivers…

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To deepen the mystery, here is a MTH Long Island 4-4-0 with the Belpair boiler and the same steam dome/sand dome arrangement as my NYC 4-4-0. Its is almost like MTH just left the Belpair boiler “shoulders” off the NYC engine…

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As a follow up, the MTH 4-4-0 is, or seems to be, a replica of the Mississippi Central 98, which later became Strasburg Railroad 98. It was built in 1909 by Alco and worked the MC for 35 years.

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I am still researching the locomotive type to see if this type was built for any other railroads by Alco.

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