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Just purchased this unit from a seller on Craig'slist. I am not able to get it to run. The manual says when placed on the track throttle up, wait for bell to sound twice then engine sound. Then throttle back down, then when throttled back up unit should move. The unit is not moving, the sounds are present though. It has a battery, was wondering if it needs replaced or charged. The seller said it was las run last November and worked fine. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Just purchased this unit from a seller on Craig'slist. I am not able to get it to run. The manual says when placed on the track throttle up, wait for bell to sound twice then engine sound. Then throttle back down, then when throttled back up unit should move. The unit is not moving, the sounds are present though. It has a battery, was wondering if it needs replaced or charged. The seller said it was last run last November and worked fine. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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I just bought (have not received it yet) a CN unit that does the same thing. I just assume it is the circuit board, plan on ripping the guts out and running it off my DC transformer
 

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Just purchased this unit from a seller on Craig'slist. I am not able to get it to run. The manual says when placed on the track throttle up, wait for bell to sound twice then engine sound. Then throttle back down, then when throttled back up unit should move. The unit is not moving, the sounds are present though. It has a battery, was wondering if it needs replaced or charged. The seller said it was las run last November and worked fine. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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The battery may be old and beyond its useful life. I suggest that you install a new rechargeable battery that has been fully charged. Then see what happens. you may have to reset to factory default settings. maybe the unit was locked into neutral.


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I did try setting to factory settings. But I will try and replace the battery. It looks to be the original which would make it about ten years old. Not familiar with units that use a battery, will they keep a unit from moving?

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I did try setting to factory settings. But I will try and replace the battery. It looks to be the original which would make it about ten years old. Not familiar with units that use a battery, will they keep a unit from moving?

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The original batteries have a useful life of about 5 years, so this one is way beyond that. it is hard to say what a weak battery will do. Some functions will work but maybe not all.

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First off, you should immediately replace any white MTH battery, as they're well past their useful life! You need a 7 cell NiCad or NiMh battery, the ones rated at 8.4 volts.

Next, you need to power up in a specific sequence for ProtoSound 1 locomotives, and it MUST have a good battery.

FIRST: Install either a fully charged battery, or put the locomotive on the track and just allow the battery to charge for several hours with 12 volts or more.

With power off for at least 10 seconds, advance the throttle slowly to no more than 7-8 volts.

Wait for a few seconds, you should hear the two dings.

Hit the direction button for 1/2 a second and the locomotive should start out in forward.

If it's still stuck in neutral, you can try a Reset-18, check the manual for the sequence.

The 30-2117-1 happens to be one locomotive that suffers from a possible lockout due to a low battery. The fix is for an MTH tech to use a special reset chip to beat it back into submission. If that's the case, you can send me the PS/1 boards and I can reset them.
 

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I will try changing the battery. It is the white one after all.

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Jeepers, are model trains supposed to be that complicated?!! I will try your fix, John, when my CN loco gets here but the first sign of rebellion and the guts are coming out!:)
 

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Looks like its going to need a hard reset. Ordered the reset kit from Nassau hobbies, $33 shipped.

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If it has a 10 year old battery that it needs for proper operation, wouldn't that be the first place to look? Sounds a bit simplistic, but then the only train I ever owned that used a battery was a 1950's Lionel O-guage NYC twin diesel, and the battery only powered the horn.
 

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Jeepers, are model trains supposed to be that complicated?!! I will try your fix, John, when my CN loco gets here but the first sign of rebellion and the guts are coming out!:)
That one reason most of my loco's are postwar. Have a couple MPC era non-electronic ones. My ONLY loco with electronics is the PE Berk, only cuz I wanted a berk with that cab number and couldn't afford to get the bigger one, which won't run on O-31 curves anyway.

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Looks like its going to need a hard reset. Ordered the reset kit from Nassau hobbies, $33 shipped.

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Should have talked to me first. The consumer reset may or may not fix it, and I have all the tech chips to reset them.
 

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Is this the kit you ordered? Original Proto-Sound Reset Kit

The consumer reset kit is for the three clanks of death. If that's not the symptom you have, that reset chip won't fix it.

Here's the Reset Kit User's Instructions, that's the only symptoms that it was designed to fix. MTH Techs have a number of other chips to address other issues with the PS/1 boards.
 

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When I first turn on I hear three clanks, two dings of the bell and then engine sounds.

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