Hello again friends. Well, after a lot of thought and wandering around the house and workshop looking at possible areas for my new layout I have settled on this plan. I did not feel that my wife would warm up to the existence of a layout in our small dining room so I chose my workshop. It is not a large area so I had to try to create a plan that would still allow adequate space for other projects. I will have to use a fairly narrow shelf (about 3 to 4 inches wide) for the tracks that also hugs the wall and makes a circuit around the room. It would be about 4 feet off the floor but that is a rough estimate at this time. I chose 22" radius curve sections typical so I could use passenger cars in the future if I wanted. I think this works well and your comments and suggestions are welcome as always. Donald.