[Havoc filmsYT]

A few weeks ago i had an idea, that idea was to test what different oils work best in Lionel Postwar/Prewar locos. the oils rang from Vegetable oils like Olive, and Actual Machine oils.

Bottom line is would yall recommend me doing this, I have no clue if it will damage my loco

 

[TrainLarry]

You would not cook with motor oil, so use the proper oil for the purpose intended!
Here is a kit with the proper oil and grease for our trains.

Larry

 

[Havoc filmsYT]

You would not cook with motor oil, so use the proper oil for the purpose intended.
Here is a kit with the proper oil and grease for our trains.

Larry

nice joke, while yes I know specific oils like that exist I'm gonna do this experiment anyway because why not, I'm gonna use a junked scout anyway so nothing of value just a simple 246 with a crummy motor

 

[MichaelE]

I would not use a vegetable based oil on anything mechanical. It's not made for lubrication.

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

You'll be sorry. Vegetable oils will turn gummy, not to mention they can start growing undesirable things on your trains.

One of many quotes on the topic.

Vegetable oils in their natural form lack sufficient oxidative stability for lubricant use. Low oxidative stability means, if untreated, the oil will oxidize rather quickly during use, becoming thick and polymerizing to a plastic-like consistency.

There are ways to chemically treat vegetable oils for better stability, but unless you're manufacturing lubricants, that's probably not going to happen here.

 

[Booly15]

You would not cook with motor oil, so use the proper oil for the purpose intended!
Here is a kit with the proper oil and grease for our trains.

Larry

So would you use both the 102 and the 107? what is the difference between the 2, I have that kit by the way.

 

[TrainLarry]

#102
#107

Larry

 

[Old_Hobo]

nice joke, while yes I know specific oils like that exist I'm gonna do this experiment anyway because why not, I'm gonna use a junked scout anyway so nothing of value just a simple 246 with a crummy motor

Well, you asked for a recommendation, you got one, but you are going to do it your way anyway......so why did you bother to ask.....?

 

[MichaelE]

I'll have the oil and vinaigrette on my locomotive please...

 

[wvgca]

sure, go ahead and use a vegetable oil, maybe sunflower or sassafrass ??
you said the loco is junk anyways, may as well finish it off, lol

 

[Lee Willis]

I'm curious what "test" means? do you mean to test various oils to see if the loco will run with them applied. I imagine the answer will, at least initially, be "yes" to just about any liquid you use. What are you going to test for (friction reduction, wear reduction, durability (how long it last until you need to re-lub), how easy it is to apply? How do you plan to measure what you test for. And how will you remove one oil (say vegetable oil), before you then apply another (fish oil?)

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

Do you want pepper with that Salad Oil?

 

[MichaelE]

Yes, fresh ground please.

 

[Lee Willis]

Do you want pepper with that Salad Oil?

Balsamic vinger is always good with olice oil. It might spice up some of those old locos. Who knows?

 

[ERIE610]

SORT OF ON THE SUBJECT

WESSON OIL/SALAD OIL = NO CASTOR OIL= MAYBE BUT BE CAUTIOUS
There maybe one "vegetable" based oil that might work. Castor Oil which is processed from the Castor Bean. The seeds of the Castor Bean contain Ricin which is very poisonous. Just a few seeds can kill. Castor Oil is a great lubricant. But has it's downfalls as well. As per GRJ

Vegetable oils in their natural form lack sufficient oxidative stability for lubricant use. Low oxidative stability means, if untreated, the oil will oxidize rather quickly during use, becoming thick and polymerizing to a plastic-like consistency.

See the links below just to become informed about processed Castor Oil

CASTOR OIL DEFINED
Castor Motor Oil: The Most Prolific Oil in History! | FYDB (fixyourdirtbike.com)

CASTOR OIL THE EARLY YEARS
Racing through time and red dust | Farm Weekly | Western Australia

CASTOR OIL & MENTHANOL
Castor Oil - HydroRacer.Net Forums

 

[AFGP9]

Vegetable oil and the like are for salads not locomotives. Plus it's not a lubricants which is why oil is used on locomotives in the first place. Bad idea Havoc filmsYT. I can only imagine the mess you are in for once that vegetable oil starts cooking in your Scout and becomes a gummy mess from the heat. I have no idea what it is you are trying to prove anyway.

Kenny

 

[Lee Willis]

We're oil in this together.
Lettuce see if this works or not . . .

 

[Old_Hobo]

Would you let this anywhere near your locomotives...?

 

[Bryan Moran]

You guys! The original inquiry sounds innocent enough. As long as he is OK with the eventual results. I use Super Lube or similar. Granted, I am between layouts but that is what I used or will use. I need lubricants in my service occasionally.

 

[highvoltage]

Well, he asked for a recommendation, the overwhelming response was, DON'T DO IT. Then he comes back and says he's going to do it anyway.

At that point the door was open.