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I was wondering everyone's thoughts on the best paint color, type, and brand for AF steam engines, particularly 302 AC? I am very proficient in using an air brush so I am open to any type of application method.
 

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A few of the guys use Krylon spray can. Black satin. Has the primer in it and easy to use.
I have a 302 painted with it. Looks great.
 

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The Krylon black satin is good paint and makes a great looking engine. To my eye that paint has slightly more gloss than factory, but that is just my personal opinion. The paint that precisely matched the Gilbert factory paint was by Krylon and labeled Semi-Flat black.Unfortunately Krylon discontinued that color. After some experimentation I settled on a high temperature spray paint made for restoring BBQ grills. Found it in a local TruValue Hardware. However some may think this paint does not have enough sheen.
 

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I have posted these pictures before but thought with new MTF members I would repost them. The engine on the right is a LN condition 295 with untouched factory paint. The engine on the left is a 290 I resprayed with the out of production semi flat black. You can see these are exact matches but there is very little sheen. The high temp grill paint looks like this. The second picture is the resprayed 290.
It is also important to note that newer versions of the Hudsons and Northerns had a higher sheen factory finish than the older engines. So the Krylon Black Satin is a much closer match for those later production engines.

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Great looking engines Tom. Yes, I have seen them before , but I can always look at nice
locomotives,
 

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Great looking engines Tom. Yes, I have seen them before , but I can always look at nice
locomotives,
Me too.

That Krylon paint works equally well on plastic & diecast body parts? I have a tinplate tender that could use a new coat.
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It does work well on plastic. I painted some cheap HO coal hoppers with it. They look great.
Much better than the original molded plastic colors. They look like metal hoppers now. These
are cheap Tyco, Bachmann, Life Like hoppers. Going with new trucks, metal wheels, and couplers.
 

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The Krylon black satin is good paint and makes a great looking engine. To my eye that paint has slightly more gloss than factory, but that is just my personal opinion. The paint that precisely matched the Gilbert factory paint was by Krylon and labeled Semi-Flat black.Unfortunately Krylon discontinued that color. After some experimentation I settled on a high temperature spray paint made for restoring BBQ grills. Found it in a local TruValue Hardware. However some may think this paint does not have enough sheen.
Tom I have always preferred the Krylon Semi-Black too since it does matches the Gilbert black shade as you say. I did not know it was discontinued. Glad I still have 2 cans left. However, I do have some car engine header black paint that is a match for the Krylon Semi-Black. The brand is DupliColor. Probably similar in color to the BBQ grill paint since both are high temp.

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Tom I have always preferred the Krylon Semi-Black too since it does matches the Gilbert black shade as you say. I did not know it was discontinued.
Kenny, I believe Tom meant that Kylon Semi-Flat Black was discontinued. The Kylon Satin Black is still available. I just bought a can last week at Home Depot.
 

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On a respray, how do you protect decals? Did I read here somewhere that a small covering of Vaseline works best? Or tape?
I'm afraid to try tape, it might lift the decal.
 

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AmFlyerFan, I used Vaseline to protect the factory number and letter stampings when i resprayed the 290. It works well if there is no black paint damage in the area of the stampings.
I am no longer able to buy the Semi Flat black Krylon paint in any store here in California. It is possible that the new California regs are the issue and it might still be available elsewhere. I have the same problem with some other chemical products. The Satin Black is still available.
 

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Kenny, I believe Tom meant that Kylon Semi-Flat Black was discontinued. The Kylon Satin Black is still available. I just bought a can last week at Home Depot.
Looks like I have a typo there. I meant to say Krylon Semi-Flat Black. I left the the words "Flat Black" out of my comments. I know the Krylon Satin Black is still available. I really haven't looked for any of the Semi-Flat Black since I haven't needed any and have an adequate supply of the header paint which as I say looks the same as the Krylon Semi-Flat Black.
I will make a point to look into this issue this week end when I go to Menards. Maybe Home Depot if it isn't at Menards.
Tom's comment about California regs is a very good possible reason. When I was a GM parts manager you wouldn't believe how many chemicals, particularly any product using an aerosol propellant, have the words "except in California" or "not available in California". Plus there are many parts that are listed as "except California" or would have a listing PN. as "California only". Any part having to do with affecting the air quality usually.

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I forgot to ask about cleaning. To clean a boiler or tender before painting, do you use a 'Dawn' type liquid detergent?
Would a 'Simple Green' be too harsh?

(Now I got all my info in one thread)
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I have always used Dawn and hot water. Seems to work on about everything. Simple Green is great stuff but I have never tried it simply because I think it might be a bit too harsh given it's intended use. My truck wheels yes but not trains. Maybe diluted. But still favor Dawn.

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Thanx again. I've used Simple Green on my Harleys, diluted is still almost too harsh.
I'll stick to Dawn.
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I would stay away from Simple Green for cleaning but if you are looking to strip paint than use it at full strength. Here is a tender that sat overnight in full strength Simple Green....

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