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One of the things I really enjoy about model railroading is testing my abilities and testing myself.
I keep seeing modellers on various forums saying they are afraid to try this or that for fear of either damaging or ruining something or just failing at it. I decided early on in my modelling that if I wanted to try something that was new for me I would. with no fear or favour.

As an example, when I finally decided to try my first hard-wire DCC decoder install, I chose to install it in one of my smallest locos, an 00 gauge Hornby Terrier. My thinking being that if I could do a successful hardwire install in such a small loco then any other installs would be a breeze. Well it was successful, the loco ran perfectly and my self-confidence rose way up.... and I have never, ever avoided a hard-wire install since then.

With that sense of self-testing and experimentation in mind I'm always open to trying new products and techniques and since I really enjoy weathering models I tend to gravitate to new products.

Over the past few months I've heard a number of modellers on various forums talking very highly about Pan Pastels. I first started using pastels in my armour-modelling days back in the 1970s, no dedicated weathering powders like Bragdons or Migs back then.

In recent years my preferred powder has been Bragdons, which I believe is a very good product and it holds well to the plastics, resin and wood of todays models. My curiosity got the better of me and I ordered some Pan Pastels from my local art-store.


This is one set I ordered...it is a 10-colour set consisting of the following colours.... Titanium White, Hansa Yellow, Yellow Ochre, Permanent Red, Violet, Ultramarine Blue, Phthalo Green, Burnt Sienna, Raw Umber, Black and some soft applicators....all in shallow screw together plastic pans.

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I also ordered this 5-pack of Extra-Dark Colours which consists of the following colours..Oxide Green Extra Dark, Ultramarine Blue Extra Dark, Violet Extra Dark, Permanent Red Extra Dark, Hansa Yellow Extra Dark.


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As you can see from the photos there are a few colours that either will never be used or used very rarely. You can order the colours individually and I believe there is a 5-pack called Dark Earth Colours that would be excellent for weathering.


So my next step is to go ahead and actually use them to weather a freight-car. This one as a matter of fact,
This is an Athearn 40ft. boxcar with Youngstown doors.


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First steps were to remove the truck/wheel assemblies and the couplers and then spray the body and the trucks with DullCote. I always do this as a precursor so as to give a bit of "tooth" to the plastic for the subsequent layers of paint and/or powders to get a good grip. It's especially helpful with the trucks.

Then, using this small handled applicator that comes with the set, I just started dabbing spots of black along the sides at the roofline and drawing them down to the bottom of the sides. I applied slightly thicker amounts on panel seams and areas that I thought would get dirtier such as the doors and handles/ladders. I applied some rust coloured pastel to the springs and one truck and finished off by giving a coat of DullCote over the pastels. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the DullCote did not seem to tone down or disappear these pastels as it often does with other powders etc.



10 minutes at most and this is the result. I really, really like these pastels and do recommend them.

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Holy crap you posted somewhere else besides Union BS Station!
And about trains!:p

The car looks great.:smilie_daumenpos:

Good review till the end?
You didn't say if you liked it or not, I think you did?:):thumbsup:

I never tried any, I might now.
I like the end result and the part about the dull coat.:thumbsup:
 

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Holy crap you posted somewhere else besides Union BS Station!
And about trains!:p

The car looks great.:smilie_daumenpos:

Good review till the end?
You didn't say if you liked it or not, I think you did?:):thumbsup:

I never tried any, I might now.
I like the end result and the part about the dull coat.:thumbsup:

Thanks...and yes I fixed it...I do like them and do recomend them.
 

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They never go bad right?
Experiment with the odd colors you may not use a lot, blend them together on a piece of scrap and see what they turn into.
You might like the results as there are all kinds of different colors formed by the weather and depending on what the car hauls.
Look around on your RR, there are a lot more items that would look good with a little weathering beside rolling stock.

I think it came out great. :smilie_daumenpos:

Maybe add a little rust in spots? Around the door and on the trucks? Maybe a little along the roof?

All that you got, may I ask a ballpark figure in the price total?
Internet purchase or did you buy from a local store?

A few months ago I had been looking around for them. I was pricing them too.
Your thread revitalized my thoughts about getting some now.
Thanks, make me spend more of my money.:p
 

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They never go bad right?
Experiment with the odd colors you may not use a lot, blend them together on a piece of scrap and see what they turn into.
You might like the results as there are all kinds of different colors formed by the weather and depending on what the car hauls.
Look around on your RR, there are a lot more items that would look good with a little weathering beside rolling stock.

I think it came out great. :smilie_daumenpos:

Maybe add a little rust in spots? Around the door and on the trucks? Maybe a little along the roof?

All that you got, may I ask a ballpark figure in the price total?
Internet purchase or did you buy from a local store?

A few months ago I had been looking around for them. I was pricing them too.
Your thread revitalized my thoughts about getting some now.
Thanks, make me spend more of my money.:p

I bought them online here in Canada from a Canadian art supply....cost for all 15 colours plus a bunch of applicators was $72.00US including shipping......I'm guessing you can find them cheaper in the US. As far as rust etc. on the boxcar...might add some but its fine for now. What I wanted to show was how easy and quick just using one colour could improve the look of a model....it was less than 10 minutes to do.
 

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I don't think it would be much cheaper down here?

But I will have to search again....all over.:eek:hwell:
And this time hit the buy button.:D

PanPastel's is a good brand to get.:thumbsup:
 

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I don't think it would be much cheaper down here?

But I will have to search again....all over.:eek:hwell:
And this time hit the buy button.:D

PanPastel's is a good brand to get.:thumbsup:
Go to th eir homepage,select USA then select your state and they list their dealers in your state.
 

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I have recently switched from powders to pan pastels as well, and couldn't be happier. They stick better, a lot less waste, and don't get covered up by Dullcote as easily as powders. I'm pretty sure my powders are going to end up in the trash ;)
 
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