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It has been a number of days since I posted any new pictures. Unfortunately some other things in my life got in the way of the trains, I hate it when that happens. I was able to get some pictures for 3 days worth of postings, I went into the attic and found a few less common items in my collection.
Today’s picture is probably boring for most of the viewers. I like to concentrate on the link coupler era.
Almost all boxes for the 633 B&O boxcars are stamped 633. A few were stamped as shown to reflect the actual colors on the car, these are quite rare. In the condition shown these are worth far more than the car inside, at least to collectors like myself who have a fixation on the OB’s. The lesson here is if you see one at a show and the price for the car is fair, buy it. The box can be sold off to buy 2 or 3 more cars.

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That's a possibility I didn't think about. It looks original to me, nothing appears to have been altered or replaced with newer hardware. I just decided to leave it as is, not expecting it to be a rare or sample piece. Without any more information than that, I doubt anyone intentionally made it up expecting it to pass for something it isn't. It's too common of a piece. Could be someone was in a hurry on a Friday afternoon at the factory.
 

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It has been a number of days since I posted any new pictures. Unfortunately some other things in my life got in the way of the trains, I hate it when that happens. I was able to get some pictures for 3 days worth of postings, I went into the attic and found a few less common items in my collection.
Today’s picture is probably boring for most of the viewers. I like to concentrate on the link coupler era.
Almost all boxes for the 633 B&O boxcars are stamped 633. A few were stamped as shown to reflect the actual colors on the car, these are quite rare. In the condition shown these are worth far more than the car inside, at least to collectors like myself who have a fixation on the OB’s. The lesson here is if you see one at a show and the price for the car is fair, buy it. The box can be sold off to buy 2 or 3 more cars.

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Interesting boxes, I didn't know they came stamped that way. You are a serious box collector, no doubt. Did the 633 Reefers come marked as well on the boxes?
 

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I have never seen a 633 reefer in a box marked 633 Refrigerator Car. That does not mean they do not exist. The rare reefer 633 variant is 1952 production. I saw a red painted one in a box marked 633-R Box Car. Vendor claimed it was the OB for the reefer.
I have one 633 Reefer, red painted, it is in the OB. I bought it 10 years ago. I did not note the box stamping on my inventory list, dummy! The problem now would be to find it, some day it will surface during one of my searches.
 

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Thanks, I know the Reefers are hard to come by. I learned something new about the 633's today, more specifically, the boxes.
 

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I have 3 633 Reefers. 2 red painted and 1 Tuscan. I don't know when I bought them since I have been collecting so many years. I know one of them came in a box but don't know where the box is. I am not a box collector but I never turn down a chance to get them when possible. I consider that a side perk.
I bought a small collection 5 years ago and all but two of the 12 cars were in the blue and yellow boxes.
All of my other boxes are in a plastic container somewhere. The contents are out on the layout or, if rare, in a glass door display case.

As a side note, when I go to shows I never neglect to look under the vendor's table after I have checked what the vendor is displaying. I have gotten several boxcars, gons, and hopper cars that had scratches or scrapes on them cheap. They are perfect candidates for weathering for the layout. Since they are already damaged, the weathering just enhances the used hard appearance, especially hopper cars. Broken steps are easily repaired too.
 

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Ready to shot down those pesky Russian, Chinese and North Korean rockets! Maybe even Lionel three rail but I might be able to pass on that. For a matter of fact, I will launch at any threat to my Ping Pong Table American Flyer Layout! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Neat. Never saw one of those before.
 

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Nice, good looking steamers. I guess I need to start hitting some yard sales. Tried a few
last year and no train stuff.
 

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This is a 781 abutment set from 1953. There are a total of 62 pieces in 3 sizes, 40 large, 14 medium, and 8 small. They are made of a ceramic material and are heavy. You can see by the numerous tape repairs to keep the box complete. My only complaint is there's no way to mount them, they depend on their weight to keep them in place, but they still move around over use. The price tag is from Strawbridge & Clothier, an east coast department store chain that is no longer in business. The price was $7.95 and says not returnable. IMG_0008.JPG

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I never knew there were track locks in that set. How many are there? The set was designed for 26 track sections. I bought an MSOB 781 set back in 1/94. Never opened it. Back then I thought I would be able to have a small train store sales case in the entrance to my layout room to hold things like this. Did not work out that way.
I think they look ok, just need some velcro or 2 sided tape to keep them in place. Neat item to post, I especially like the original store price tag. $7.95 is the original catalog price, interesting Strawbridge & Clothier as a full service department store would mark it non returnable without a sales discount.
 

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For today’s picture I have a 1953 only link coupler gondola, the 620 Southern Gondola. It retailed for $3.00 and was not included in any cataloged sets. This example has the longer 3 spring trucks. The 620’s show up once in awhile but are not common. Being white on black they were kind of plain. The 920’s are far more common as they were included in sets and not a one year only item.
The OB is in good shape with a legible stamp. It is sitting on the roof of the main passenger station on my layout.

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I never knew there were track locks in that set. How many are there? The set was designed for 26 track sections. I bought an MSOB 781 set back in 1/94. Never opened it. Back then I thought I would be able to have a small train store sales case in the entrance to my layout room to hold things like this. Did not work out that way.
I think they look ok, just need some velcro or 2 sided tape to keep them in place. Neat item to post, I especially like the original store price tag. $7.95 is the original catalog price, interesting Strawbridge & Clothier as a full service department store would mark it non returnable without a sales discount.
Mine is not a sealed 781 but the track locks were in the box when I bought it. The bag contains 16 locks, but the bag is stamped in black ink #26. So, who knows. They do work with the abutments, the tab on top of the pieces not only keep the pieces in line when stacked, but fit between the two ties at the connection which allows the clip to be installed the same way as with the trestles. Nice 620, I have some 3 spring linkers and always look for more when I can. Just to up-date the track locks. Reading an older Greenberg guide it lists 26 track locks in the bag. After looking at the bag I have , it does look like a 6 instead of a 0. I'll have to add 10 to the bag.
 

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It the track lock bag is stamped 26 there should be 26 locks in it. That also matches the number of track sections the 781 set works with. I used to know a vendor who bought empty set boxes and put in all the pieces to make up the original set. The hardest item to find was a track lock bag with the correct number stamp for a given set. Seems like original sets had a lot of variety in how many track sections were included, based on the price point.
 

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For Friday here are pictures of another uncommon but desirable car, the 24222 Domino Sugars covered hopper. It was added to my collection in March of 2002. This example is very hard to find since it is new in the box, never run. The slightly weak stamping visible in the D where the rivets are is how it left the factory. The OB is in near perfect condition as well. I would like it on the layout but I just cannot bring myself to run it after it has lasted 55 years in its factory new state.

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Tom, that s a fine covered hopper. Very nice. I have seen 1 or 2 of it, but not many.
 

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have a few OB for my cars. Most do not have one. I like getting the box with the car,
but it s not a biggie. The cardboard is getting close to 70 years old and cardboard just does not pass the test of time most of the time.
 

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It's a rather cool and rainy day here, a perfect time for me to mount an expedition into the attic in search of a box I know that came with a red painted 631 gondola I have. I found it but the stamping has faded considerably since I bought it. Grrr... the good news is I found a 633-R box I didn't remember I had. Now to find the box car down in the main part of the house. My inventory system at its finest. I did find the painted 633, I had forgotten I bought one. Anyway, glad Tom that you posted your pics. of your boxes. It appears that the left truck was replaced on this one at some time. Here is also the painted 631. I think they are both 1952 productions. The 631 is uncatalogued. Correct me if the dates are wrong. IMG_0012.JPG

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Wonder how that lettering faded, usually only sunlight will do that. The cardboard lasts "forever" if it is in a dry area. That is the best condition red painted 633 I recall seeing. The problem is most of the red ones were painted over white plastic so chips and wear marks stand out. The red T&P's are fun as well.
I seem to have the opposite problem you do Cramden. My inventory list is perfect because my wife created and maintained it. I just do not know where they are.
 
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