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Since the S guys are too busy building their layouts, let me show you this.
I reuse the old rivet to change out the truck. Cutting with a wheel will generate too much heat and the truck will melt off.

I start with a pair of needlle nose and work the edges of the small end of the rivet.



When I am ready I pry it off with a screwdriver. If I feel it move I apply pressure otherwise I go back to the needlenose. You have to make sure you grab both halves of the truck when you lift. I used a larger screwdriver than shown it was easier to snap the picture.


To install, the small side goes up. I use a flared center punch to round the inside of the rivet.


Next I use a rounded punch to work the edges. I place a long socket underneath for support.


To finish ,I have a small ball peen hammer. I use the rounded end first then the flat end to finish.


That's all there is to it.:D

A clear picture of the tools used.

 

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And while I have "ALL" you "S-Gaugers"..........

Picked this up in a bag of "goodies", lots of rivets, screws,(a 302 in need of TLC), trucks, wheels, etc.
At first when I saw the picture, I thought it was an AF HO. NOT!!!

It appears to be a complete switcher motor assembly(missing the pin for the chugger arm, and needs new wheel insulators)

Anyonehave any ideas of what model #?


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The return from the lamp is wired in the 5th(top) jack panel???
 

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Timboy, got about 30 assorted rivets, 2 sets of link trucks, 6 sets of sintered wheels, the 302-great shape(needs side rods and front truck, but I have extras!), rear truck assembly for a 336(great shape), 2 of the round side plates for the reel on a 636 reel car(in good shape), a 6 wheel-link truck with metal and plastic wheels(great shape), the other part of a truck with the side mounted, spring loaded, power pick-up, and that 0-8-0. Delivered for $61:)
 

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T-Man -- Nice job with the rivet reuse. I didn't know that was possible. I had just drilled some out of the trucks on my Lionel 1689T tender, planning to replace them with screws. I'll fiddle with rivet reuse method next time.

Jim -- I don't know much about AF steamer inventory, but for some reason, the wheel linkages on your loco remind me of the ones on postwar Lionel TURBINE steamers. (I can't think of the loco numbers right now, and no reference books with me at the moment.) Could it be that AF had their own version of a turbine steam loco?

TJ
 

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TJ, most Lionel rivets are brittle and will break. Still, it is a better way to remove them.

Jim, Good Luck on the project!
Most leathercrafting stores and your more rural hardware stores often carry a variety of rivets. They're used a lot in making belts and harnesses. Those old farmers would never think of buying a strap or a harness; they'd slice a strap out of a leather hide, punch a few holes in it and go to the toolbox for rivets. The more skilled would simply fashion a rivet on the anvil with some round stock.
 

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Hey T-Man, I've got a Pikemaster Truck w/contact, bushings, but no rivet, sitting in my parts box. Want it?


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Jim,
Thanks for the offer. I can use it. The wheels will go to my red coach. The coupler will go with the Borden car. I have a broken one with good wheels but not fix it parts, so I can definitely use it.
 

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Some trucks are mounted with a plastic dowel.
I tried to remove one by spliting it but broke the post.

Repair was simple. Super glue to set and drill a 5/32 hole for a glued toothpick does the trick.



I suggest to flatten the sides if removal of the truck is desired. The two sides parrallel to the the car will work. Just have to move the truck 90 degrees and line up the flat sides with the slit in the truck. Prying up should finish it.
 

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