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Unless you are running trains that long it may be a non issue.

Try to find your limiting section then decide if that is long enough or not.
 

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I think he stated that was a slip earlier.

If you zoom in its a double slip.
 

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Discussion Starter · #84 ·
Greetings all. Thanks for all the help. Christmas is now over and I can return to this project.

1. Yes, a double slip

2. Outside main curves are 22 inch radius, inside are 18 inch min. I really want to keep those 22 inch outside radii, and do not want to go below 18 inch anywhere except for inside switching industries. I have two 0-6-0 locos: one a Plymouth diesel (BLI) and a Porter steam (Bachmann) that I 'see' switching inside the main. But I had better test, maybe 0-6-0 will bind on a 15 inch radius even at low switching speeds.

3. I have hardboard for a fascia that will provide a 1 inch 'guardrail.' Hopefully that will prevent the great plunge of death!! Though my layout does sit over carpet and a pad, but still.

4. I'm going to keep playing with the inside industrial area. I have a mind's eye idea that may not work, but it's worth throwing some Anyrail pixels around.

Thanks again for the tips and reviews and critiques. Keep 'em coming!

STeve J
 

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Your 0-6-0s, as well as any 40’ or less rolling stock will run fine on 15r curves in yard areas. Of course that doesn’t mean you should-lol.
Curved TOs & 22r; needn't worry about that. If you can make them fit well, the larger than 22r outer curve will act as an easement into and out of the other 22r curves. Smoother op’s too.
It’s obvious I’m a huge fan of curved TOs. For good reason I believe.
 

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Discussion Starter · #86 ·
Okay - I have done a lot of design work inside the loops.

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  • The curves showing yellow are 18 inch R; Those showing Orange are 15 inch R.
  • The southern structure is the Walthers Ice Bunker, upper west is the Golden Valley Canning company.
  • The structure off board is the Walthers RJ Frost frozen storage - - doesn't look like it will fit anywhere.
  • that is a double slip coming off the southeastern inside loop. (Probably don't really need it, but I already have the TO).
  • The little spur pointing SW may become a little engine house for the industrial switcher working those inner lines.
  • the pink rectangles are electromagnet uncouplers.
  • The Yard is already built and uses the ME code 70 ladder system.
  • All other TOs will be Peco insul/unifrog or the new Walthers.
  • The curved TOs are a mix of old Walthers/Shinohara and the new Walthers.
  • Rolling stock will be primarily 40 foot or less. I have one 50 footer box car.
  • No passenger service.

Please review with an eye for operations. I think I have it such that all the inside tracks can be worked with a switcher and at least a few cars.

Thanks all!! I'm getting excited to get cracking on this!!
 

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Personally, I think you have too much going on. Lots of back and forth spurs look interesting on paper but will be a nightmare to use. Combine that with a lack of a runaround track off the mainline and it's going to get old fast.

In the prototype remember they try to make things as easy to access (time is money) and use as little infrastructure as possible (maintenance/construction costs).


If you REALLY want that much track and puzzle in the middle I'd suggest adding a well known track arrangement to the middle such as the timesaver. It's not really for "operations" its more a puzzle, but it should work better for operations than your most recent plan and still be plenty interesting. Note that it includes a runaround.

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You are of course correct - a run-around would be of tremendous use. And funny you should mention the Tymesave. Early in my thought process, I was looking hard at the "Highland Terminal" shunting track


I'll keep working! Thanks again!
 

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Personally, I think you have too much going on. Lots of back and forth spurs look interesting on paper but will be a nightmare to use. Combine that with a lack of a runaround track off the mainline and it's going to get old fast.

In the prototype remember they try to make things as easy to access (time is money) and use as little infrastructure as possible (maintenance/construction costs).


If you REALLY want that much track and puzzle in the middle I'd suggest adding a well known track arrangement to the middle such as the timesaver. It's not really for "operations" its more a puzzle, but it should work better for operations than your most recent plan and still be plenty interesting. Note that it includes a runaround.

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Is this design more for off of a mainline? I'm dabbling in how to do some small yards off my mainline and was curious...
 

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Its a shunting puzzle, so its designed to look like it connects to a mainline or potentially one of the through tracks is the mainline.

This Digitrax demonstrator layout has one inside the bottom loop.
Norcross Southern (digitrax.com)

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