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I've always been enamored with old steam (both models and prototypes) and when I started model railroading again I started picking up examples of the different types of engines. Now I have a bunch of them and thought it would be fun to show them off. I'm pretty weak at the top end for a few reasons, both financial and because for me the older the better. Anyway, here are a few:
The Twos
2-2-2 Single
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This is the John Bull. Originally built as an 0-4-0, it was later given a combined pilot truck/cow catcher and the rear driver was detached from the front, creating a very large trailing wheel set. Later still it was given a cab and bell-topped stack. The model is one of the Bachmann old timers.

4-2-0 Jervis
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Another Bachmann engine, the Prussian, the first engine for the nascent Prussian Railway system.

4-2-2 Bicycle
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Not sure about the prototype, but this is an Aristocraft engine from way back when. It can run very fast because the driver is huge but runs clumsily and has extremely poor traction that can't be fixed since the drivers are also pickups.
 

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The Fours
0-4-0 Four-coupled
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The top two are Teakettles, the left from Silvine the right Lifelike. They can pull a number of cars above their weight but are too small to be road engines and can't switch because no pilot coupler. Bottom left is the Dewitt Clinton, first steam engine on the Mohawk and Hudson RR in 1831, Bachmann model. The right is a Tyco switcher built from a kit.

0-4-2 Olomana
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This is an old Mantua model but post-dates the shift to plastic. I don't know anything about the prototype. I picked it up as non-running but it just needed a little lubrication and encouragement (running around the layout at full blast). Still need to clean the brush contacts.

2-4-0 Porter
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I'm pretty sure this is a fantasy piece, the only other cab-forwards I found besides the SP mallets were some in Italy. The kit is a Mantua shifter with a Kemtron conversion kit. If I could find a prototype anywhere near this I'd put the RR name on the caboose. Eventually I plan on getting a Bowker too, just because I think they are neat.

2-4-2 Columbia
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Namesake for the type, this engine was built by Baldwin specifically for display at the Columbia Exposition in 1893. The model is an old Aristocraft with broken tender trucks replaced. It doesn't run right, either a short or gap I haven't been able to find yet.

4-4-0 American
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The most common locomotive in its time, at one point something like 80% of all locomotives in the US were Americans (or so I've read). The bottom right is a Tyco General built from the kit, the bottom left is a Bachmann (I think) from a Christmas set. Runs OK at full blast but crappy otherwise. Upper right is an AHM Reno that runs OK except it can't pull anything. Upper Left is a Tyco General kit converted to the USMRR General Grant with a conversion kit from Shapeways. In the back is a broken Bachmann I haven't fixed yet.

4-4-2 Atlantic
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This is a Roundhouse kit someone else built. They bought a detail set too, came out pretty nice but it has a click I can't find and oh yeah, it can't pull for squat.
 

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The Sixes
0-6-0 Six-coupled
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This is a Tyco Little Six kit. I think it was the first kit I built as a kid 40 years ago (that one long gone, this a recently built replacement). A neat engine that pulls above it's weight.

2-6-2 Prairie
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This is a Roundhouse kit. Prairies are famous because the ATSF used them in a race when a guy called "Death Valley Scotty" bet $5,500 he could beat the cross-country speed record (he did). Anyway, the main driver should connect to the middle wheel not the last one, but it is suspected this is a scaled-down Mikado rather than an enlarged Mogul.

4-6-0 Ten-Wheeler
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Bottom left is a Bachmann tender-driven IC RR engine. Pulls pretty good for such a small engine. Bottom Right is an Aristocraft model with the biggest drivers I think I have. Runs nice too. Usually these are painted blue but either the company or a previous owner did a nice job painting this a more reasonable color. Top is an old Tyco someone repainted maroon. The only company I could find with that particular color was Chicago & Alton.

4-6-2 Pacific
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This is the oldest engine I built that I still own. It's an old Mantua kit I built it a teen; my brother kept it after I joined the Navy then it was a prop for wargames for a decade or two. When I started railroading again I replaced the missing cow catcher, fixed a jink I could never resolve before and now it runs pretty nice after it warms up.
 

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The Eights
0-8-0 Eight-coupled

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This is an AHM tender-motored engine where the tender frame suffered Zamac cancer. I've been trying to get it to run again but need a gear box to convert the new can motor to something the engine can run with.

2-8-0 Consolidation
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This is another AHM 8-coupled with Zamac cancer. I replaced the tender with a Chattanooga Choo Choo tender-drive I found in a junk box and took the worm gear out of the engine then replaced the engine weight with a broom handle. It runs OK at full blast but really needs a better motor. Anyway, after all that I found out the Union Pacific didn't run 0-8-0's but it did run Consolidations so a pilot truck later and Bob's your uncle. Anyway It pushes the snow plow.

2-8-2 Mikado
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Called Mikado because the first models were built for the Japanese. The upper engine is an Aristocraft that I got with the frame for the valve gear broken. I ended up cobbling something together out of brass sheet, filing the bottom of the gear box so it doesn't hit switch frogs and it runs pretty good. The bottom engine is a Kit-built Mantua Camelback. Lehigh Valley was the only railroad with Mikado Camelbacks so not much choice there. It pulls a 16 car coal train at a stately pace (meaning I have to give it a little help on some curves) and the tender likes to derail on two specific switches but otherwise it's a fun engine.

4-8-0 Twelve Wheeler
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Another Tyco, this one can't even pull itself. I think the pilot truck is too high or too low, resulting in only one driver actually pushing. Otherwise it runs OK. That orange though...

4-8-2 Mountain
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Another Aristocraft, this one is a nice runner that is screaming for me to build a Southern Passenger train for it.
 

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Last but least:
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a 4-6-6-4 Challenger I built from a kit. One day I'm going to figure out why the front truck binds so badly then it will be fun to see how many cars it can pull.
 

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Interesting thread. I try not to duplicate wheel arrangements when I get steamers, but I never considered trying to get one of each configuration. Don’t think I have seen some of the ones that you have. Going through my list, this is what I’ve accumulated.

0-4-0, 2-4-2, 2-6-4, 4-6-0, 4-6-2, 2-8-2, 2-8-4, 4-8-2, 4-8-4, 2-10-0, 2-8-8-2
 

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2-8-0 Consolidation
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This is another AHM 8-coupled with Zamac cancer. I replaced the tender with a Chattanooga Choo Choo tender-drive I found in a junk box and took the worm gear out of the engine then replaced the engine weight with a broom handle. It runs OK at full blast but really needs a better motor. Anyway, after all that I found out the Union Pacific didn't run 0-8-0's but it did run Consolidations so a pilot truck later and Bob's your uncle. Anyway It pushes the snow plow.
Actually, UP did have 1 (one) 0-8-0, but it started out as a 2-8-0 Consolidation. The front pilot truck was destroyed in an accident, and rather than fix it UP just removed it and used it for switching duty. And now you know.... the rest of the story.
 

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Nice! I think I have one of every configuration from a 0-4-0 up through all the combos with 4,6,8,10,12 drivers and 0, 2, 4 or 6 pilot and rear truck wheels, to a couple of 2-10-10-2s and some Yellowstones (maybe my favorite big loco type - 2-8-8-4) and of course the Big boy 4-8-8-4

The only one I am missing I think is 4-14-4. I would love a model of the Soviet AA20-1, the only 4-14-4 build. I know it was a truly lousy loco but that is beside the point. Its fun just to collect and compare.
 

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That Dewitt Clinton really caught my eye so I had to find some more info. I happened to stumble across one on ebay with a lot of bids but still a really low price, so I stuck in my bid and waited for the countdown (which was only a couple hours away at that point). Amazingly enough I won it! I'm hoping to see it early next week so I can get a closer look. I had seen some folks talking about converting it to DCC several years ago when the model was still being sold but there was nothing small enough then. I'll be curious to see if anything from N scale will fit in it now. :)
 

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Not sure there's any room, the motor is in the tender. I did have problems because the tender wheel base is so narrow it stalls crossing frogs. I ended up adding brushes to the rear drivers and wiring them to the tender and that seems to have solved the problem. Did you get the cars too? They look like old west coaches.
 

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Yeah from what I can see from the pictures I know it's pretty tiny, but we'll see. If the equipment isn't available now, maybe we'll see something in another 5 years?

And yes, it came with the full set - the loco, tender, and three stagecoach cars (which is pretty cool looking as well!!!). They should be arrive Monday or Tuesday, then I can see what kind of condition they are in. All I really know is that it runs.
 

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if you wanted a Clinton, you could have had mine ..... it's not really good for too much, lol
and as far as DCC, there really isn't enough room in the loco or tender
 

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Woo-hoo it works! :) The little DeWitt Clinton arrived early and is in mostly running condition. It wasn't too happy at first and needed full power on the DC throttle to get moving, but slowly starting working smoother. Then I tried to reverse it and it didn't want to move at all (and was very hot!). I did a full tear-down and I think there was a bit too much oil in there, so I cleaned off the brushes and contacts and now it's running smoother at about half throttle, in both directions. I might need to pick up a PWM throttle next time there's a train show just to get stuff like this running well.

The thing runs and smells like a slot car, but it's trying. I was wondering, can anyone tell me if white lithium grease would be suitable for the plastic worm gears? Or is that too heavy for such a tiny thing?

@Murv2 -- sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread, but I do appreciate that you led me to this model!

[EDIT] By the way, a quick update... I DO believe converting this little guy to DCC is possible with today's electronics. Digitrax makes a tiny decoder (model DZ126T) which is only 14x7x3mm and handles 1.25A peak, and could be tucked into the tender between the wood piles. The real trick is isolating the motor from chassis since it's all a big chunk of metal, but I think I have a solution for that. There are copper plugs holding the brushes and providing the electrical contact between the chassis pieces and the motor. If I replace the plugs with a plastic screw and solder lead wires to the brush springs I think I can make the whole thing self-contained. Other projects on the bench right now, but this looks promising!
 

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You didn't hijack the thread, glad I inspired you.There are two more Bachmann pre-Civil War engines, the Pegasus and Lafayette I hope to find one day.
 
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