[ErnestHouse]

Leaving a breadcrumb here to other noobs with a Lionel postwar collection who didn't know: Within "O" scale, there's "Scale" and "Traditional" which appears to work out more like 1:48 and 1:56 respectively. An excellent dissection by Lee Willis with photographic examples is found here:
http://www.modeltrainforum.com/showpost.php?p=1296305&postcount=32

and here:
http://www.modeltrainforum.com/showpost.php?p=1297969&postcount=34

 

[DonR]

Here is information on 00 scale that will help
you decide. It is used in Britain, much of Europe and
other parts of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OO_gauge

Don

 

[Icantthinkofausername]

Maybe something like a ruler or a coin in the pictures for "scale" (no pun intended)

 

[Lemonhawk]

And just how much does that short piece of 1:1 rail weigh?

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

And just how much does that short piece of 1:1 rail weigh?

Most railroad track used for main line trains in the United States weighs at least 130 pounds per yard, or 43.33 pounds per foot.

 

[Ace]

OO and HO size comparison

Most of the items in this photo are 1:76 OO scale models of English trains, except:

second shelf, two items at left are HO Sydney commuter cars.
third shelf, brown-and-cream car is HO, compare to OO versions of similar-style English cars on same shelf.
fourth shelf, diesel at left is HO painted for Victorian Railways.

HO scale models of English railway stock look noticeably smaller than American HO because of the smaller English loading gauge. OO scale bulks them up to a similar height and width, which in earlier years helped to fit available motors in the locos (according to references).

OO scale models of English passenger cars make them about the right size to resemble some older Australian passenger trains in HO. These mostly English-made trains in the photo were gifted to me from a friend in Australia, where modelers often made do with foreign-prototype models. Some of these passenger cars were repainted to cover up the original English markings.

English OO scale uses HO gauge track which equates to 4'1.5" gauge. This disparity has been explained in historical context:
http://www.doubleogauge.com/history/history.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OO_gauge

 

[Vincent]

I'm new at this, but I snagged a copy of the starter photo for this thread.

I already understood the differences in scale, but that photo makes it easier to explain.

 

[MohawkMike]

I have a collection of NYC Steam engines that I exhibit in the following scales and/or gauges:

G
O
On30
S
OO (American)
HO
HOn3
TT
N
Z
T

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

I removed the "offending" graphic and the argument that followed.

In the future, please simply report any offending posts using the

link at the left of every post. We can handle the moderating from there.

 

[trainmeup]

Love this pic. I am new to this Hobby. This is a great reference for me. Thank you.:thumbsup:

 

[harryson]

Has anybody started out with g scale indoors and converted to a smaller scale because of space restrictions indoors? I am considering a complete change to O scale.

 

[Guest]

Has anybody started out with g scale indoors and converted to a smaller scale because of space restrictions indoors? I am considering a complete change to O scale.

Yes, it's been done. I grew up on Long Island where we had basements and plenty of room. I had O gauge. In my 30s I wanted more scale realism and switched to HO for a few years. In my 40s I discovered G and fell in love with it. When I moved north of New York City for my job I didn't have room for G. After much thought and evaluating possibilities in different scales I decided on N. That was in my 50s and lasted until I was 64 when N became too small for me to work with. At that point I completed the circle and returned to O gauge.

Are you considering 2 rail or 3 rail O? 2 rail generally requires larger curves and so needs more space.

 

[videobruce]

It's apparent that many don't know the difference between "scale" and "gauge" since both are used interchangeable, but shouldn't be.

Although scale and gauge are often confused, scale means the ratio between a unit of measurement on a model compared with a unit of measurement in corresponding full size prototype, while gauge is the distance between the two running rails of the track.

(from Wikipedia)

Scale as in 'scaling things down to size'.
Gauge as in 'gauging distance'.

 

[Bonz85]

I wish S scale was more popular. Was big into Ertl in my younger days and would have been fun to model both on the same layout. Don't think I'll stray from HO though. I think for the most part they look more realistic than the larger scales.

 

[Big Ed]

I wish S scale was more popular. Was big into Ertl in my younger days and would have been fun to model both on the same layout. Don't think I'll stray from HO though. I think for the most part they look more realistic than the larger scales.

You are entitled to your opinion, I am sure others would not agree.

 

[All Scale Rails]

HOn3 isn't a separate scale. It's HO scale narrow gauge trains.

ALL SCALE RAILS - ASR Issue 10 September October 2016

What is Gauge, Modify Märklin Z Scale Adjustable Track, Edward Lorence L&S Div. of the B&O, Card Stock Modeling, DL&WRR Oil House Scranton PA Blueprints

allscalerails.com

Go hto page 5
It will explain gauge

 

[CTValleyRR]

It doesn't need a magazine article. Gauge is the distance between the rails (inside edge to inside edge). Scale is the relative proportion to the real size. Very simple concept, really.

HO and OO scales use track of the same gauge: 16.5mm, which is not quite equivalent to standard gauge (although pretty darn close in HO): 16.5mm x 87 = 1435.5m / 25.4 mm to the inch = 56.5", or 4' 8-1/2"

 

[punchy71]

Great photo of the scales, but, I think you should put OO and T in there also.

 

[MohawkMike]

It doesn't need a magazine article. Gauge is the distance between the rails (inside edge to inside edge). Scale is the relative proportion to the real size. Very simple concept, really.

HO and OO scales use track of the same gauge: 16.5mm, which is not quite equivalent to standard gauge (although pretty darn close in HO): 16.5mm x 87 = 1435.5m / 25.4 mm to the inch = 56.5", or 4' 8-1/2"

depends whether it is English or American OO

 

[daveo228i]

The photo showing side by side of the more common sizes is excellent for a reference.


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