I adapted this picture I found on another site and thought it might be useful to people trying to decide what kind of train they want.
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Size comparison of scales
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AND, standard gauge has lots of different sizes...............
And it’s named Standard Gauge 😆.
I was wondering if it was a proper noun or not. Are you pretty sure?
Yes.
Lionel dubbed its new standard "Standard Gauge" and trademarked the name. Lionel's Standard Gauge is distinct from the standard gauge of real railroads, and the later 1:64 scale S gauge popularized by American Flyer after World War II.
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As someone who does not mess with anything that isn't diecast or pre-1956 or so I never realized there was a difference between the size of locomotives in the 0 and 027 gauges. With the models I have, most 027 models have an identical twin with a different number on the cab with three digits sold as an 0 gauge set.
What always did bother me was the differences locomotive scale size vs the tender, or other roilling stock, often just between price levels and sets. For an example, the X1004 and X6004 and similar box cars vs the 6454 series box cars generally sold with better sets, yet with the same locomotive and tender with only different numbers to denote the gauge.
I never messed with HO much, although I have a box of it somewhere around here that was handed down to me. I don't think I got the track though so I never paid it much mind already having a full 027 layout.
I just always figured that whom ever was designing this stuff never actually saw a real one.
A good example is HO cars vs. HO trains, HO cars are more in scale for 0 or 027 trains.
The fault likely lies in who ever came up the terminology.
What always did bother me was the differences locomotive scale size vs the tender, or other roilling stock, often just between price levels and sets. For an example, the X1004 and X6004 and similar box cars vs the 6454 series box cars generally sold with better sets, yet with the same locomotive and tender with only different numbers to denote the gauge.
I never messed with HO much, although I have a box of it somewhere around here that was handed down to me. I don't think I got the track though so I never paid it much mind already having a full 027 layout.
I just always figured that whom ever was designing this stuff never actually saw a real one.
A good example is HO cars vs. HO trains, HO cars are more in scale for 0 or 027 trains.
The fault likely lies in who ever came up the terminology.
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I never heard of a scale difference between O and O27. I had both O and O27 track as a kid in the early 60s. They are both O scale at 1/48. You can run O scale trains on O27 track and vice versa. The outer rail width is the same for both O track and O27 track. O27 track and rolling stock was less expensive than O. The O27 rail height was little lower. The tie width a little narrower. The big difference was the O27 curve radius was smaller. O27 curves had a turn radius of 27 inches. The smallest O curve radius was 31 inches. A 27 inch turn radius was too small for some O scale rolling stock.
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Ronham said; “You can run O scale trains on O-27 track and visa versa.”
Yeah? Try running any Lionel Berkshire on 0-27 track. Or an F3 A-A sante Fe set.
Get back to me with the results. lmao.
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Yeah? Try running any Lionel Berkshire on 0-27 track. Or an F3 A-A sante Fe set.
Get back to me with the results. lmao.
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Lionel always had different size cars even in prewar with the 800 and 600 series. The 800 was so much larger. the couplers would not meet a 600 series car. In postwar the cars could couple but you would see a height, length, and width difference. Most of my rolling stock is 027 compatible. When the length hangs over on the curves it is time to go to O gage track. I will say the 027 rolling stock is close to S scale. My MKT 600 switcher would navigate 027 it was not something I would do to enjoy. I do have both on my table.
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Reread my last sentence.
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Correction here, O27 curve turn radius is 27/2 = 13.5 inches.
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I have a Shay (2 truck by Sprectum), it's 1;43and runs on HO track, they called it on30 :dunno:
its !/48th, scale , The English 1/43, the us and germany 1/48th and the french 1/50th, the all are considerd 0 scaleI have a Shay (2 truck by Sprectum), it's 1;43
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0 27 is not a scaleI adapted this picture I found on another site and thought it might be useful to people trying to decide what kind of train they want.
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It this the discussion between gage and scale? The original picture was posted by the op but he is not the maker.
027 may not be a scale but it does have a scale associated to it. Just compare an O gage car to an 027 car.
When I first started collected I never thought about the size of cars until I ran into an O gage car. It was so much larger but still not a true O scale car.. guess it really was the scale of the cars I noticed. After thinking about it I noticed an 027 car is close to an S scale car.
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What scale are those "backyard" trains have seen and heard about on this sight? can you ride on them?I adapted this picture I found on another site and thought it might be useful to people trying to decide what kind of train they want.
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