[Big Ed]

T -man I came across this in your album. ( I left a comment too.)

Did you ever do anything about fixing this up?

 

[T-Man]

I got confused on the engine numbers. But the oriiginal is a 1689 because of the eunit slot in the front . I bought a 1688 shell with a slot in the rear.
Repair of the shell stopped when I couldn't decide on how tofix it. I toyed withthe idea of cutting one up to fit the old one with new sides and piece it together. In the meantime I bought a shell for it a 1689. The old 1668 has a slot for the e unit in front . The motor works fine, but I need parts. The ebay one has a rear slot. I noticed the new ebay has a chip off the back side, otherwise in good shape.

A picture of the bad side of the shell. Pretty big hole, wouldn't you say.

So I am stil thinking about it. ED, I Love the shots of the shells. I like the torpedo look. Especially the metal look. I will either fix this one or get another or maybe even both. But that is the fun I have I have many options and things to do.

Currently I am working on a caboose project. I am adding side extensions to a typical brown caboose. I guess it makes it lok like an extra large cupola? I do not know the term nor the style I am trying to do.

 

[Big Ed]

How the heck did the shell get like that?
I was going to give you this one, but it won't help you out as the slot for the e unit is in the wrong place.
All this needs is a custom T-mans paint job and the red marker lights.
That is quite a large hole in the shell.
Oh well back to the drawing board. I have another box of old shells somewhere. I will look. If I got a 1689 your welcome to it free of charge. But I don't think I have one or I would have put it with this bunch to keep them all together.

I like the 289E shell with the steps in the front. Rarer too.
It's in my album along with the other 3.

Would the engine fit if you could cut a hole in the front for the lever?
Probably not.
I noticed the back inside of the cabs solid on some the others like this black one are open.
A picture of the open one as some are solid metal inside the cab.
I don't have a picture of the solid one. (you know what I'm talking about?)

What does the back inside of the cab of a 1669 look like? Solid or open?

 

[T-Man]

Isn't that shell something! That came from a box I bought up the street mostly prewar. The broken off pieces were long gone.My 248 was in the same box.

The slots are a problem. I may just reverse the engine and go with it. Maybe in my future I will find a 1689 with a forward slot.

I did notice your 289e Real Nice. Hang on to it.
The shell you showed me? I would strip it and keep it natural.
I guess fixing the old 1689 just wouldn't look right
I do have the extra lights. They came in an ebay parts lot. I have tons of used rods but they all seem too large.

My cabs are closed.

I appreciate the thought, Thanks!

 

[Big Ed]

This Tender # 6403B has been renamed. Not by me. lol

I bought this tender with the intent to redo the whole thing for the CNJRR road.

Note who ever customized it rubbed off the white Lionel Lines on it.
and added a beautiful stencil job too.

Stay tuned as one of these days (years?):laugh: I will transform it.

Trestles are under construction too. 10 mph zone speed in effect.

 

[T-Man]

It's a bell ringer!!!
The rivets caught my eye and I look at my later version. I noticed staple end trucks and the 1656 switcher. The post war library told the rest.
I don't have any bells. It looks like a good find. Show the mechanism when you get the chance. Please Please Please. I can see the bell under the frame.

When I paint my Xmas tender it had heat stamper lettering. It will take some sanding to make it disappear. Mine is still visible.

 

[Big Ed]

Yes the B on 6403B is for bell only.
Will get some pictures on the bell.

How do you think I can put back on the white in Lionel Lines?
Dry Transfer? Small paint brush? (with a very steady hand)
I would like to restore the white on it.

I am thinking of maybe painting it the CNJRR's colors green and yellow. (gold)
Though I haven't seen any of there Steamers painted that color.

I won it on e bay with the intent of making it a Central Jersey steamer.

 

[T-Man]

Good question. I have a 212 that was washed out. Painting would be slow. Dry Transfer is probably easier. I may practice the painting I have some tiny brushes

.

Here is the tender I sanded the lettering is still visible.

Here is a decal I used and some sticker lettering to finish.

 

[Big Ed]

Yes I don't want to sand it off. There must be someway. If you dry transfer you have to get just the right sized letters.
I want to put the white back in and decal it Jersey Central.
If you find a way let me know.

By the way the Christmas tender came out great.

 

[Big Ed]

Someone painted the 1656 loco too.
I think this is the only switcher loco that came with the Red Markers. And finding one with good markers is hard too as these will topple over and crash if you run them to fast around the curves.


That will get redone too.

 

[alcoman]

How do you think I can put back on the white in Lionel Lines?

I hate to interrupt what seems like a private conversation...

Doesn't anyone sell Lionel decals? Can you take a picture of the lettering on a tender that still has it and then Photoshop it into something that can be printed on decal film. Someone on this forum must have an Alps printer that can do decals.

I seem to recall seeing an ad for a company that will print custom decals. All they need is the original you want printed.

Just a thought. I'll stop interrupting now.

 

[Big Ed]

I hate to interrupt what seems like a private conversation...

Doesn't anyone sell Lionel decals? Can you take a picture of the lettering on a tender that still has it and then Photoshop it into something that can be printed on decal film. Someone on this forum must have an Alps printer that can do decals.

I seem to recall seeing an ad for a company that will print custom decals. All they need is the original you want printed.

Just a thought. I'll stop interrupting now.

no one's interrupting that's what forums are for.
I saw reproductions one some where.
don't know about doing the picture thing of it?

 

[Big Ed]

Bell Tender T asked for.

Bottom of tender

This shell has a stamped # inside of the 2203T-4 on it.
I have read something about Lionel using this # for different tenders bodies.

 

[T-Man]

Thank you Ed for the view. It's in great shape. Your lettering will be a challenge it's fancy with narrows. Not easy to color. Mine is plain, all with a standard width. For decals I did get a Sante Fe for my F-3 nose. I don't know if they have a standard Lionel Lines? I'll have to ask next time. I have only seen one Co. for custom decals and they were 25.00 a sheet. It didn't stir my interest. My wife has some decal sheets. I was going to rubber stamp something for the tender. I found some AC Moore decal/sticker that worked.
I am happy with the tender for now.
I checked my tender shells they are 1615's. None are lighted.....................yet.

 

[Big Ed]

Thank you Ed for the view. It's in great shape. Your lettering will be a challenge it's fancy with narrows. Not easy to color. Mine is plain, all with a standard width. For decals I did get a Sante Fe for my F-3 nose. I don't know if they have a standard Lionel Lines? I'll have to ask next time. I have only seen one Co. for custom decals and they were 25.00 a sheet. It didn't stir my interest. My wife has some decal sheets. I was going to rubber stamp something for the tender. I found some AC Moore decal/sticker that worked.
I am happy with the tender for now.
I checked my tender shells they are 1615's. None are lighted.....................yet.

I can find a lot of decals for Lionel, but none to replace the Lionel Lines.

I will have to experiment in my laboratory in my dungeon some more.

I had to take it apart to clean anyway.

 

[Big Ed]

T you know my tenders body is cast right.

After taking the decals off some and a light wet sanding I found that the Lionel Lines came right off. Maybe I will leave it off and just add CNJ to it.
With the Lady Liberty decal.

 

[alcoman]

don't know about doing the picture thing of it?

In a magazine article, someone took a picture of a covered hopper with extreme graffiti on it and then Photoshopped it and printed it on decal film to create a model of the car. Doing the Lionel markings should be much easier, even if it was done one letter at a time. I thought about doing some replacement decals for the toy trucks I saved from my childhood.

I'm really surprised that replacement lettering isn't commercially available with so many people restoring these things. Why doesn't somebody make the letters on a rubber stamp?

Just random thoughts. I like your Lionel stuff. Brings back fond memories.

 

[T-Man]

OOOOHHHH Cast! I didn't know. There is someone who has stamps but I think they are just prewar. I'll need to check.

The computer stuff can get elaborate, one guy took pictures of his trains. Mounted them and used them as back drops.

 

[tjcruiser]

I got confused on the engine numbers. But the oriiginal is a 1689 because of the eunit slot in the front . I bought a 1688 shell with a slot in the rear.
Repair of the shell stopped when I couldn't decide on how tofix it. I toyed withthe idea of cutting one up to fit the old one with new sides and piece it together. In the meantime I bought a shell for it a 1689. The old 1668 has a slot for the e unit in front . The motor works fine, but I need parts. The ebay one has a rear slot. I noticed the new ebay has a chip off the back side, otherwise in good shape.

Hey Big Ed, T-Man,

I'll chirp in on this old thread, if you don't mind ...

I've recently gotten the "streamliner" bug, and have been reading/learning about Lionel's pre- and post-war versions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ...

The 1668 was a 2-6-2 "Loewry Pennsy" with its e-unit forward.

The 1688 was a 2-4-2 sharing the same Loewry Pennsy shell, but with its e-unit aft. And ...

The 1689 was a 2-4-2 Commodore Vanderbilt style loco that did NOT share the shell with the other two. This is the one that had the large swooping body curve above the drive wheels.

To complicate things a bit further, the 238 was a 4-4-2 Loewry Pennsy that looks nearly identical to the 1668 and 1689, but I don't think it actually shared the same shell. E-unit aft on this one.

Right? Set me straight otherwise.

I'm happy to report that I just bid/won a 1668E on ebay. I've seen only pics so far (I know, I know ... always a bit risky), but she looks to be in quite nice shape. I'll post some pics soon in the What's New thread.

Thanks guys!

TJ

 

[T-Man]

TJ from the book you are right.I have had problems trying to id the engine without the number plates so it appears to be the 1668 with the front eunit.
Also I may have refered to e bay.