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Ok , its all in the title. Maybe a jan , feb start date. Basement layout , 3 or 4 sheets of plywood. Not sure on the exact dimensions. I may revisit my old layout, or add to it and expand. The old was dismantled but i have the tops minus the buildings and tall scenery. I like old school stuff and operating accessories. Real life train reproduction isnt high on my list. Fun and loaded with crap is a better way to describe what I want.

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Do people still use legacy stuff? Or tmcc stuff? I have both , never used. Or Is it all Bluetooth stuff now? And what will legacy or tmcc run with? I have engiens to run on both ( not a lot) and the controlers. I have a ton of post war stuff and some pre war. Batteries will probably need replacing on the higher tec stuff.

Track: I still like the old stile 3 rail. I have it , and bigger radius stuff. Plus plentiful switches. Worth it to upgrade or not?

Keep it conventional or add so I can do other stuff later. Or a mix of a middle 2 loops conventional and one loop with newer tec?

Options, opinions, thoughts or ridicule is welcome.
 

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Yea , i get that. Thats why in the old layout it had lots of isolated sidings, you could use them for switching, but it was more that they were isolated for tasks, like the horse corral, cattle corral, coal loader etc. Some needed precision to line up, others just made a mess. Lol. So you could park a car set the voltage and watch it work. If you wanted you coyld also use it as a switching layout. But that was way harder then parking the cow car out of the way of the runners, so its perfectly lined up to move and tip cows. Yes they tip a lot. I may just do the outer 072 loop wires for legacy. As thats what I need to run the big rig. Dont kbow how isolated rails ( or dont remember) will effect that. I think i need to keep the one side for the comunication on the legacy side of it uninterrupted, and I can controll stuff on the other one?

Your layout looks good, just remember scram ( or at least it used to) dosen't always acount for switch motors with the older track. I will do as I did the first time, tape on the floor and dry fit it. I have an idea, but not sure yet. Thanks for the thoughts. I am leaning to more conventional. Just because of the amount of accessories, maybe the cow on track will be broken out for this build. Dont tell Ed!
 

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Ok, so far, i think inside loops conventional, and outside will be legacy. Besides , the only legacy thing I have only operates on the 072. ( i think its only one. It may be 3, lol) Ill keep the other stuff inside and see what I come up with. I have been knocking off the jobs around the house I have been procrastinating on, so I can clean up the basement a bit and see what type of room I have. I am thinking something easy, not like yours GRJ. While I can do that, I am time limited. My new hobby ( a camper) has me away for most of the nice weather months.
So , still thinking about 4 sheets of plywood, eaither in a big U , or 2 sheets in the middle and the other 2 off to the sides. I will probably have to add a bit for the 072 curves around the edge. I'll strat planning soon, I hope.
 

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Forgot all about a cow on the tracks.
I did a search....model railroad s scale cow on tracks......first thing that came up, :) I was looking in 2010, I guess they are rarer now.
If I had one, I would probably wreck something trying to run it over. :D
Half the stuff I have I forgot about. And I still get something here or there at the flea market. I think I have 3 of the old coal loaders, the pre war ones. I bought one for parts but it worked. Lol. The saw mill has to ho somewhere also. And the MTH firehouse. Crap, I have too much stuff. I still need a few pre war bridges. I have and idea , but i need to see if it works.
 

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Nice , lots of stuff I dont have also. Lol. Amazing how many operating accessories there are. Thanks for sharing. And yes, i have a ton of accessories.
 

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Ok, so mesuring and thinking. I have a little room and 3 tables allready built from previous layout. While i want to keep some things on my old layout( I really liked it) adding the o72 curves around the outside will take some changes. I may strip what's left of the old scenery from the 2 tables, so 2 sheets of plywood. And I have a 3rd allready build, ot was the prototype with 027 switches and 0 track. So that gives me 3 tables. I Can not find the legs I had, they may have went into the fireplace.......so i will figure that out and maybe build a small yard. Maybe a 2 x 8 off in the corner? If i need to add for the 0 72 curves, it shouldnt be hard to add to the tables. They are old school and built with 2x4s. So heavy.
 

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What im thinking, and the area im planning on using. Unfortunately, i may have to resuport some of the floor joists, not for the train set, just something I have been putting off, so I will not have to worry avout it later. Its not a big deal.
 

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Ok next is power. I forget some stuff here. So, I have lots of transformers sitting around. They may work or not, but i can fix them. Lol. Was thinking, one power circuit to each track. Thats 3. One more power feed for lights. One more for switches and accessories. Or should I break this into two? I know switches work best around 14 to 16 volts. And accessories can change depending on age, oil and motors , plus what they are. I may break this up also. So thats like 5 feeds on seprate lines. If I run the legacy it will be on the outside loop, and may need a newer type transformer. Or power pack thing. Can I run that off the zw centinal that no one liked, lol. Or xan the legacy be powered with a reguler zw? I have 4 zws, a centinal zw, a z , 4 180 bricks, and various other stuff. So i can use diffrent stuff no problems.
 

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Unfortunately, no computer. Yes, i know it will go over, lol. How much, i have no clue. Figured I would cheat the inside and the left side of the board. O can add on , but i have no clue how much is needed. I figue , that is the idea , that you layed out. Cheat it a little in, and run another track around it. This may be a bigger undertaking then originally thought.
 

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Or I cpuld just sell the train that needs the 072. Thats another option. Lol. And the track and switches. Imagine the stuff i could buy.......
 

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Here's the same design but using 0-54 at all the leading edges of the semi circles. You can see why I needed the extra 3" width added to the 48" wide tops.

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I may have to do that, the 072 center rail to center rail is about 6 feet. Lol. I could do it, but it may be too big for what I need. The train says it runs on 054. But I may have to cheat some bigger peices in. I dont even know if I have 054. I thought I had 054 on my old outside loop but it could be 042. Whatever it was the train would not run on it. Decisions, decisions......
 

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Ok, so best bet for 054 looks to be menards. Ebay has track but for more money then them. I still have time so I can look around for a month or two.
 

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You said way back when that they were all O42's. You thought. You said the table was 4' wide, O72's wouldn't fit on that.
Which they look like o42 in your old pictures.

Lol, i forgot there was older stuff here also ed! Bonus is I have a fireplace now, lol. Yup, your right. 042. So the 0 54 may work. The 072 is so big. I just dont have the room to spare. So, this may be doable with just a little added on to the tables. Outside 054, then 042, then the 032. I just found a big box of prewar 072 on creigslist. Lol. Not that I need it. I could sell the 0 72 switches or maybe make them work somewhere.
 

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It is your thread, lol. :)

I always thought that the o/54 track was the largest curve you could get in the o/27 style. O FastTrack has 54 curves.
On my main table it is all o/27 style, the curves on the outside line corners are o/54's.
Or used to be till I had to tear my extension corner out, when that goes back together I will mate my true O track to it. On the extension I had all true O track.
I am waiting for the price of wood to drop. :)
Got to get over to my sister's house, she has a nice 5/8" 4x8 sheet of plywood to get rid of. Plus some smaller cut pieces of 5/8" plywood.
Free but heavy!
If you need a hand, ed, I'm not that far away. Np.
 

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Wood Interior design Floor Flooring Gas

Getting closer to see how much room I have to work with. I will make it taller then what people call normal. This way all my train stuff will go on those rolling shelves , under the layout. No wasted space. ( the one in the picture will be cut down, high but not that high! ).
 
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