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As to the OP's original question:
The amount of heat needed to boil water is the same = firebox heat the same. The concern is which is the better fuel to do it with ? There's a reason why most steamers had been converted to oil by the end of their era..I've no stats on that..But here's another angle:
Oil burners mean no ash pans to rake out or ash pits to empty = less sooty air in/near yards.. 馃洡馃彮
 

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As to the OP's original question:
The amount of heat needed to boil water is the same = firebox heat the same. The concern is which is the better fuel to do it with ? There's a reason why most steamers had been converted to oil by the end of their era..I've no stats on that..But here's another angle:
Oil burners mean no ash pans to rake out or ash pits to empty = less sooty air in/near yards.. 馃洡馃彮
But the burning of oil leaves particulate matter in the atmosphere, as does burning coal. Coal soot can be seen, whereas oil soot cannot. But both are equally problematic.
 

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Agreed. But look at the jobs that don't exist anymore, with coal, which no one wants to do anyway.....LOL
 

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So, what ?! Of what significance does that hold with my statements or the OP's question ?!
No one here is discussing job loss ! The subject is coal v oil burning steam locomotives.
Oh, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning LOL I'm simply continuing the conversation, which as most of us know, may veer off in different directions.
 

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Your first post, # 17, and your ensuing posts have zero to do with the OPer's title and post #1.
I know there is no forum ruling against that. But I believe it, out of common respect for every OPer we at least try and assist him or her initially before going off on a tangent with our own memories or problems, many a time leaving the OPer in the dust..
 

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Your first post, # 17, and your ensuing posts have zero to do with the OPer's title and post #1.
I know there is no forum ruling against that. But I believe it, out of common respect for every OPer we at least try and assist him or her initially before going off on a tangent with our own memories or problems, many a time leaving the OPer in the dust..

Along with a few other members, I simply offered not only an opinion and maybe some knowledge, but replied to those members who, like myself, have veered onto another track. So why not admonish any other member who also took the same siding ?

I'm done with this subject. This tit for tat is not doing this forum any justice.
 

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Ok so next is, who cares. Really eaither way. This place has a ton less people posting then in the past. It seems a lot of us have gotten old and bitter. Like the stayboff my lawn people. A lot left a while ago, the Im going to take my ball home so no one has fun group. In reality, who cares. Comment as you will, be nice and civil, and threads do go off the rails sometimes. But without posts, goood or bad we dont have a fourm. So play nice people. Me included, sorry old, the I like turtle's is all I though if with the peanut butter coment. 馃啋 carry on, have fun!
 

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I think it all comes down to practicality.
Hypothetically speaking, coal might be less efficient but more abundant/easier to acquire for entity 1, but for entity 2 the opposite may be true.

I don鈥檛 believe it is wise to put all eggs in one basket. Not only do I support a diverse portfolio, but I think an entity would be wise to have capacity of 120% in relation to usage. To word it another way, using only 80% of what you can actually store; whether we鈥檙e talking a house heated by propane or a nation that runs on dunkin, you need an emergency buffer.

Today I was looking at 3 horse head oil wells near me, all three in the middle of crop fields. Compared to coal, oil wells are very noninvasive. Similarly we have natural gas wells everywhere, if you know how to recognize them. In metro Detroit there is a hotel that has a natural gas well in the middle if its parking lot. It鈥檚 fenced off, but, they鈥檙e everywhere. Corn fields, church property, parking lots, everywhere.
Coal requires expansive mines.

They all, except maybe for natural gas, have extremely useful byproducts too. I often think about how different the world would be without things like acetone, asphalt, turpentine, nylon, velcro, and polyester. In fact, if I could listen to one of those activists rant & ask just one question, it would be why are they wearing polyester if they hate fossil fuels? I鈥檓 90% sure I鈥檇 get a confused look from them, oblivious to the implications of what they鈥檙e pushing.

I鈥檝e said it before; if you want to turn back the Industrial Revolution, 1736 is where you end up. And if you want to live that way, you鈥檙e free to right meow. But I kind of like modern advancements such as air bags, seat belts, waterproof roofing, and pharmaceuticals to fight illness. If you hate fossil fuels, stop using a var seat for your kid, a seatbelt for yourself, a padded sofa to sit on, a smartphone to call your friends, etc.
 
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