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Discussion starter · #62 ·
Great tips again OVR regarding the wiring and feeders! Thank you
You’re quite welcome, to everyone. I had to come up with something as there’s only 24” or so vertical space for storage. Also learned lessons from club layouts that ran wiring at the rear edge.
No more pulled back muscles, or soldering under there. All crimp style and screws, accessed from the aisle. Just pull up a chair.
 
Discussion starter · #63 ·
Another neat element of modeling the 1977-1981 time frame is the opportunity outside theater entrances to add Star Wars promotional stuff, i.e. an X-Wing on the roof edge or AT-ST on the sidewalk near the entrance etc, which is a way to do something both whimsical and yet totally plausible. (Star Wars was released in 1977, and re-released in 78, 79, 80, and 81, essentially in theaters non stop for 5 years).
 
How about self serve or full serve signs at he filling stations? Not as fun as Star Wars, but something you don't see from that era much any more...
 
Discussion starter · #65 ·
How about self serve or full serve signs at he filling stations? Not as fun as Star Wars, but something you don't see from that era much any more...
That's a good tidbit to research. I've no clue what the State of PA had at that time, full, self, both. I'll have to pray to google; the god that actually answers questions.
 
Another neat element of modeling the 1977-1981 time frame is the opportunity outside theater entrances to add Star Wars promotional stuff, i.e. an X-Wing on the roof edge or AT-ST on the sidewalk near the entrance etc, which is a way to do something both whimsical and yet totally plausible. (Star Wars was released in 1977, and re-released in 78, 79, 80, and 81, essentially in theaters non stop for 5 years).
That is a really neat idea! Can't wait to see it in action! Curious if they make HO scale Star Wars stuff?
 
Things that seem to have disappeared from the late 70's / early 80's:

Mink coats
Station Wagons
Wooden boats (OK, they started to disappear in the 60's)
Strip Mines
Picnics
Roadside Rests (not the rest areas of today)
Toll booths
Telephone booths, or even pay phones in general.
Cigarette adds
Chain Gangs
Roller Rinks
3-wheeled ATVs
TV antennas on roofs or on their own tower beside your house.
Lots of electric wires overhead - many places started burying their wires in the 80's and 90s
Cobblestone or Brick paved roads.

And my favorite.. no warning labels!
 
That's a good tidbit to research. I've no clue what the State of PA had at that time, full, self, both. I'll have to pray to google; the god that actually answers questions.
When I pumped gas for a living in Philadelphia in 1973, it was all full serve. When I was back visiting family in 1979, it was a mixture of mostly full serve with some stations offering a mixture of full serve on one island and self serve on another. Full serve was usually the island closer to the office so that the guy running out got to the car a few seconds quicker.
 
Discussion starter · #69 ·
That is a really neat idea! Can't wait to see it in action! Curious if they make HO scale Star Wars stuff?
The beauty of it is they needn't be HO exactly. It's just promotional stuff to help sell tickets.
Years ago, and maybe still today, some company made small diecast star wars ships. Maybe close to N scale? Tie fighter was maybe 2 inches tall? I was thinking of using something like that.
 
Discussion starter · #70 ·
Things that seem to have disappeared from the late 70's / early 80's:

Mink coats
Station Wagons
Wooden boats (OK, they started to disappear in the 60's)
Strip Mines
Picnics
Roadside Rests (not the rest areas of today)
Toll booths
Telephone booths, or even pay phones in general.
Cigarette adds
Chain Gangs
Roller Rinks
3-wheeled ATVs
TV antennas on roofs or on their own tower beside your house.
Lots of electric wires overhead - many places started burying their wires in the 80's and 90s
Cobblestone or Brick paved roads.

And my favorite.. no warning labels!
And backyard satellite tv dishes. When they were about 10' diameter. I might have to do one, in that hideous almond color of course.
 
Discussion starter · #71 ·
I thought I had posted this but I guess not.
I'm up to 72 ounces of custom blend mainline ballast. It's a great use for those pasta sauce jars after they get washed & de-labeled.
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Aside from that; my focus has shifted to Summer outdoor work. But it's been chilly & rainy. So trying to catch up on layout room prep etc. And more specifically, revisiting some mental plans to replace venetian blinds with light-blocking shutters, and.... I'd like to box in my breaker panel (surface mounted on concrete wall), and there is a stub below it for a sink drain. A tripping hazard IMO. Anyway, long story short, actually not, well...
To the point; I've had 3 1/2" OD pvc sitting here. 2 feet worth. It's not going to be used as planned so, I'm seeing Naphtha storage tanks. I think I've got almost everything I need laying around to cobble it together. Except I haven't figured out a berm/wall/containment fence.

But man way access, and this is what made me think of posting this... I didn't have anything suitable. It seems I'm fresh out of styrene tube. Then I thought of the jug of driveway weed killer. The jug has enough juice for about one more application. That battery power wand... Is just a styrene tube. It'd probably make for a good smoke stack even. Then I saw a cat toy, one of those wands with a string you can attach different feathery things to. The cat doesn't bother with it anymore. It's not styrene but it is plastic. Hmph! I guess I do have more than enough tubing laying around here utterly ignored... or unnoticed.
But I gotta come up with a see thru cat walk to bridge the tanks on top.

I wish I was creative enough to think of a model train use for old cigarette butts. Lol
Wait.
Waaaaaait....
Hold my beer.
 
... great use for those pasta sauce jars after they get washed & de-labeled.....Then I thought of the jug of driveway weed killer. The jug has enough juice for about one more application. That battery power wand... Is just a styrene tube. It'd probably make for a good smoke stack even. Then I saw a cat toy, one of those wands with a string you can attach different feathery things to. The cat doesn't bother with it anymore. It's not styrene but it is plastic. Hmph! I guess I do have more than enough tubing laying around here utterly ignored... or unnoticed.....But I gotta come up with a see thru cat walk to bridge the tanks on top.
I wish I was creative enough to think of a model train use for old cigarette butts.....
And I thought I was Frugal!!!! You got me beat, giggle If you have some old window screen, that can make good cat walks too.
 
Discussion starter · #73 ·
And I thought I was Frugal!!!! You got me beat, giggle If you have some old window screen, that can make good cat walks too.
I never thought of it that way lol I mean I do enjoy the challenge of how to come up with something acceptable for as little $ as possible.
But my eyes & mind don't always see "it."
I knew a guy, truly inspiring, who could make things out of total junk. Like just parts bin stuff, throw together a unique structure & sell it for $80. The way his eyes saw things was enviable. I used to pay humorous homage by surmising to him that he could probably turn pocket lint and snot balls into detail parts lol But he would use fender washers, rubber garden hose O rings, even Lego pieces as chimney type bits of detail. I actively try to see things how he did, but it's not "a bodily function" for me. I'm looking at two chapsticks, wondering what the caps could represent; whereas he would have probably seen something other than chapstick from the outset. Very inspiring & creative view of things. I try to do it, but I'm just imitating, with more than a bit of struggle.

I tried window screen once and felt the spaces were way too big, cartoonishly. There might be different sizes of window screen. Fuel filter screen would work, but I'm not sure if Autozone etc sells just the screen. But I'll check. I've used it before on HO machinery with good results. But I'm not sure where a friend had gotten it.
 
Discussion starter · #74 ·
Early mockup of Naphtha storage & loading unit for the ARCO refinery. Just took the photo to verify it'll function as a view block & not ridiculously big. 88 scale feet tall, not counting the railings & stuff that'll be on top.
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And a photo of, give or take, what I'm aiming for upon completion. Should go quick once I obtain something for a see through catwalk floor. I like that diffused fence too & might do it just because though I don't understand the purpose of it. Anti-climbing maybe?
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Discussion starter · #75 ·
An unusual off-season update. Yesterday I could barely walk from soreness due to the outdoor labor. Today, still recuperating, I did some layout alteration.

Backstory to this is: if you look back at my track plan you'll notice it's rather vague. Minimum radius of 24 is about the only thing in stone.
My trusty measuring tape pointed out to me that the real estate for Electralloy is far far too small. 4 inch depth by oh I dunno about 4 or 5 feet long.
So I had been planning to, and finally extended it into the (future) aisle today; adding 8.5 inches of depth, or actually stealing that much from the 36" aisle. But it's top deck only, about shoulder height, so it's beer belly friendly lol.
Before & after:
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And while I was at it I cut the sub roadbed for the adjacent spur throat & double mainline. With a quick placement of ties just to give an idea. It was not accurate, but I'll come back to that in a minute.
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For kicks and gigglies Ibbalanced some flex track & pre-made curves to indicate where the West bound main (far right) will diverge to cross the river & also continue straight (creating a smaller loop). The EB mainline will probably see that turnout become a slightly curved turnout. I'll shoehorn it in.
The two spurs for Electralloy will be about 32 inches longer (on another section of benchwork not yet built). It looks like I'll be able to squeeze three 86' hi cubes on there. It'll be tight, giggity, but it should work.

So back to turnout placement. Below is a bit more accurate.
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What's the big deal or difference? Well that length of track where the pvc pipe strap is resting. I'm planning to install a functional split rail derail there. Prototype photo below.
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Although it's not really necessary, just for show. All my sidings will have N scale cork roadbed, so they'll sit about 1 foot lower than the mainline. Things don't roll uphill usually. Nevertheless, I want working derails.

On a related note; does anyone know if any decal companies make MOW Scribbles for the rail webbing? I mean I could imply it with a tiny paint brush, but it'd be very cool if the rail replacement date etc was actually legible.
 
Sure hope they never needed to use that. The wagons would roll over right on to that road to the left.
 
Discussion starter · #78 ·
I thought this might be helpful info for those new to the hobby. By no means does this illustrate the only way, or even the suggested way; just the way I do it.

First & obvious, the entire section of sub roadbed and risers were disconnected and moved to the workbench.
So I figure out where the center line is and mark it. But I also trace an outline of the roadbed because once you're aligning roadbed on center it can be difficult to be sure you're centered. So outer edges help.
The spurs use N scale cork, which needs to be gapped down the center so cork runs under each rail. I'll update soon with a photo of that.
Also I do straight sections first, glue them in place, and then go back and do the turnout areas. This requires keeping one important thing in mind: spur transitions from curved to straight. So I keep the straight spur areas extra short and do that transition with the turnout roadbed.
Straights are drying right now.
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Just for clarification: the screws that hold the risers to the cross members are removed and screwed in below the risers to serve as hands. This sections has 4 risers, this shows 1 of those locations.
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Discussion starter · #79 ·
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Gapped N scale cork on the spurs.
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Difficult to see them but there are styrene shims under the cork stepping it down. Starting with double thickness N cork, then 2 graduated shims, down to single N cork.
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The derail will be in that grade, so completely unnecessary to be functional, but also a good location to make a first attempt because if it doesn't work it's fine. That mag is at the top of the grade. Slightly encroaches into the mainline but it should be fine as just one corner will be near one rail.🤞
 
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